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  1. #1
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    Default What to do with a squater?

    What would you do if someone else placed bees ( by squatting without permission) in a yard you had a written contract to lease?



    1. Call the person

    2. Move them out?

    3. Bury them?

    4. Sell them?

    5 ?????

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    Default Re: What to do with a squater?

    1. Call the person.
    2. Have landowner call cops.
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    Default Re: What to do with a squater?

    Let the landowner handle it
    "People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe."- Andy Rooney

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    Default Re: What to do with a squater?

    1. Call landowner.
    2. Verify that you have the ONLY lease.
    3. If you have ONLY lease have them contact the offending beekeeper to remove their bees.
    4. Have landowner or you post NO Tresspassing signs.
    5. If offending beekeeper does not remove in timely manner, have landowner contact the police to have them get it done as offending beekeeper is tresspassing.
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    Default Re: What to do with a squater?

    Adverse possession laws very from state to state. They seem to be additional nebulous when it comes to beekeeping. If anyone has any links to case law on this subject I would greatly appreciate it!

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    Default Re: What to do with a squater?

    In some states placing bees without written consent of the land owner makes them his property.

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    Default Re: What to do with a squater?

    Make some quick splits outta your new yard???

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    Default Re: What to do with a squater?

    You surely don't want to 'P' them off. If you do, they know where your hives are located and may return to get even. I wouldn't mind sharing the space if you could trust them not to check your hives when you're not there. Let the land owner handle it.

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    Default Re: What to do with a squater?

    talk with the landowner, then have him call the authorities.
    It's the landowners issue with the other beekeeper not yours.
    Your issue is with the landowner.

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    Default Re: What to do with a squater?

    Ya , let the land owner handle it. This could simply be a mis understanding.

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    Default Re: What to do with a squater?

    Maybe they meant to gift them to you.

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    Default Re: What to do with a squater?

    Quote Originally Posted by drlonzo View Post
    1. Call landowner.
    2. Verify that you have the ONLY lease.
    3. If you have ONLY lease have them contact the offending beekeeper to remove their bees.
    4. Have landowner or you post NO Trespassing signs.
    5. If offending beekeeper does not remove in timely manner, have landowner contact the police to have them get it done as offending beekeeper is trespassing.
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    Default Re: What to do with a squater?

    I'll remove them for you, just pm me where they are, I'm trying to grow my apiary anyways..... I'd talk to the landowner first and see what he says about the whole deal. Do you have bees there too?

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    Default Re: What to do with a squater?

    Quote Originally Posted by drlonzo View Post
    1. Call landowner.
    2. Verify that you have the ONLY lease.
    3. If you have ONLY lease have them contact the offending beekeeper to remove their bees.
    4. Have landowner or you post NO Tresspassing signs.
    5. If offending beekeeper does not remove in timely manner, have landowner contact the police to have them get it done as offending beekeeper is tresspassing.
    If the yard is fenced change the locks and make sure the gate won't come off the hinges.
    Clear Lake Wi. / Sebring Fl.

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    Default Re: What to do with a squater?

    Quote Originally Posted by JRG13 View Post
    I'll remove them for you, just pm me where they are, I'm trying to grow my apiary anyways..... I'd talk to the landowner first and see what he says about the whole deal. Do you have bees there too?
    You don't really want to be known as one of those types; do you?
    I have exactly ONE hive more than you.
    That makes my opinion beyond question.

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    Default Re: What to do with a squater?

    Quote Originally Posted by HarryVanderpool View Post
    You don't really want to be known as one of those types; do you?
    Would that be the squatter or the guy who cleans up an uninvited mess?

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    Default Re: What to do with a squater?

    If you do not start an all out war after you do the clean up... then it might be good to be known as one of those types. It would likely reduce the recidivism rate.

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    Default Re: What to do with a squater?

    Recidivism (/rɨˈsɪdɨvɪzəm/; from recidive and ism, from Latin recidīvus "recurring", from re- "back" and cadō "I fall") is the act of a person repeating an undesirable behavior after he/she has either experienced negative consequences of that behavior, or has been treated or trained to extinguish that behavior. It is also used to refer to the percentage of former prisoners who are rearrested for a similar offense.[1]

    The term is frequently used in conjunction with criminal behavior and substance abuse. (Recidivism is a synonym for "relapse", which is more commonly used in medicine and in the disease model of addiction). For example, scientific literature may refer to the recidivism of sexual offenders, meaning the frequency with which they are detected or apprehended committing additional sexual crimes after being released from prison for similar crimes.[citation needed]

    To be counted as recidivism, the re-offending requires voluntary disclosure of arrest and conviction,[citation needed] so the real recidivism rate may differ substantially from reported rates. As another example, alcoholic recidivism might refer to the proportion of people who, after successful treatment, report having, or are determined to have, returned to the abuse of alcohol.

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    Default Re: What to do with a squater?

    Quote Originally Posted by Honey-4-All View Post
    Would that be the squatter or the guy who cleans up an uninvited mess?
    I think maybe he means one might wish to avoid being known as a bee rustler. Thief.

    I heard one guy recently tell another beekeeper who had someone setting too close that he aught to take a can of kerosene and pour some in the entrance of each hive down the front row of the apiary. Kills the bees and makes the equipment unusable. Why anyone would say that's what they would do is beyond me. Seems like that would make them a prime suspect should something like that occur.
    Mark Berninghausen
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    Default Re: What to do with a squater?

    If the hives are marked bring the offending hives back to the owner and charge him/her an appropriate fee for moving their bees. Appropriate meaning like what an emergency tow would cost.

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