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  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2014
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    Uhrichsville, OH
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    Default Think I'm getting in a mess here...

    Hi,

    My hive #1 seems to not be doing well. It was started at the end of May with a 4 pound package of Italians. The queen died, and I replaced her with a new one. All seemed well for several weeks, and I saw her on my inspections. A couple of weeks ago, I didn't see her, but saw some eggs. My last inspection, I saw a few larvae, but that's about it. It looks there is a lot of my syrup on the cells, but uncapped. I took a few picks. What looks like eggs is just a light reflection in the syrup. There didn't seem to be as many bees as before, but I can't say for sure. Usually, this hive is all over the place when I open it, but they were relatively calm this time.

    Here's a frame:
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  2. #2
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    May 2012
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    Rockford, MI
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    Default Re: Think I'm getting in a mess here...

    Doesn't seem to be a sufficient amount of bees there. Brood is pretty much non existant. Didn't see the queen again this time I'm guessing? Hard to give advice with just a few frame pics.

  3. #3
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    Default Re: Think I'm getting in a mess here...

    The key is in this sentence from your post." All seemed well for several weeks, and I saw her on my inspections". The "s" on the end of inspection is usually the problem.
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  4. #4
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    Morris Plains, NJ USA
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    Default Re: Think I'm getting in a mess here...

    Could be wrong but I see strong hints of robbing, especially in the 2nd photo. That hive has a serious population problem and what's left of it should be added to another, stronger hive.

  5. #5
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    Default Re: Think I'm getting in a mess here...

    I'm wondering if there are signs in bee behavior that experienced folks would notice that I am missing. The problem hive is always very active-- lots of bees flying around and quick to respond to intrusion. On my last visit, however, they pretty much ignored me. The population has dropped.

    Looking at hive 2, I usually see very little bee activity. There is little at the entrance and not a lot of flying around. They really don't react when I go in, and they have much more capped honey where the first hive has nearly none. They're getting things done. I'd like to see more eggs, but the queen is defiantly there.

    As per advice, I've kept the entrance reducers in place on the smallest opening. I'm there once a week to mow. Sometimes I drive past. The entrances never look crowded to me, so I assume that is good. I look in every 7 to 10 days, which I thought was OK. Did I cause the problem by going in too much? I need to salvage this situation soon. I'm wondering about adding it to the other hive. Would it cause a problem there?

  6. #6
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    Jan 2013
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    Lumpkin County, GA
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    Default Re: Think I'm getting in a mess here...

    Quote Originally Posted by Organist View Post
    As per advice, I've kept the entrance reducers in place on the smallest opening. I'm there once a week to mow. Sometimes I drive past. The entrances never look crowded to me, so I assume that is good. I look in every 7 to 10 days, which I thought was OK. Did I cause the problem by going in too much? I need to salvage this situation soon. I'm wondering about adding it to the other hive. Would it cause a problem there?
    I am far from an expert but my mentor tells me to inspect every 7 days. In the spring, he says that I should inspect every 5 days to catch swarm cells early. I would do a newspaper combine with another weak hive to make it stronger. This is after making absolutely certain there is no queen in the hive.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
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    KC, MO, USA
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    Default Re: Think I'm getting in a mess here...

    Looks like EFB, I would send a sample in for testing. If it is EFB and you put that comb and/or bee in a different hive you could spread it. Careful with your equipment, tools and gloves, dont let your weaker hive get robbed out. EFB is very contagious.

    Picture #2 says a lot: the dark cells had capped brood are inter mixed with yellow cells exactly what you see in a frame that has had one brood cycle in an EFB infected hive. It was so bad on that frame it was probably one of the last frames your package drew out.

    >My last inspection, I saw a few larvae
    Were they in a tight little group or spread out with empty cells between? Different aged larva intermingled with eggs?

    >there is a lot of my syrup on the cells
    Do you use EOs or HBH in your syrup?

    How many hives do you have? how many packages from May? Do you have pictures of you other hive? Can you post them?

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