What have you found is a better painting regime on new equipment? I have a lot of equipment I am painting at this time, and I wondered is it better to paint once and be done (maybe do the corners twice) or paint two complete coats before the equipment goes into production. (I use a commercial sprayer)
I don't want to skimp on the paint. but if it is overkill or if I am missing something that could help me conserve I am open to suggestions.
That is pricy paint! I don't go much darker than a forest green myself and I am north of the 48th parallel. What kid of paint has an asking price of over $40 a gallon? Is it made by Coach or Chanel?
When using exterior latex, has anyone experienced having the paint on the box mating edges stick together? I'm talking to the degree that separation is difficult. Is there a remedy?
I used to have that happen every time, but no more. Now, before I put the box into service, I rub beeswax along the top and bottom. they no longer stick to each other. -james
I use Valspar lately and boy do they stick together. Stacking them outdoors and leaving them in the weather a while seems to let them break their bond. Though that could just be my imagination.
TVBeek, are you talking about after you have them stacked on the hive rather than when you paint?
Mark, I've been using Valspar for the last three years and boxes will stick together the first year. After using for a season they seem to do ok. Gotta get a little propolis, wax, sweat, dust, etc., on them I guess. If you stack them together while you paint and let them dry edge against edge you need a deadblow hammer or a 2x4 to knock'em apart! I use the premium with primer, though I put a coat of Zinsser on first. I figure this is probably the only coat of paint they will ever get and it coats/seals them well and the boxes painted three years ago are holding up great. I use a brush. It goes without saying, though, that I don't have anywhere near the amount of equipment to paint as you commercial guys do and can take longer to paint each box.
I would like to thin my Valspar a little to paint the corners and handholds. What should I use? Water? Will a cpl coats of thinned Valspar penetrate the end grain better?
I use the Behr Marquee and even after a week of drying it will still stick together (It would make a fine glue). I rub both top and bottom edges with a pound block of beeswax, works great.
intheswamp, yeah I'm talking about on the hive. I use valspar. To paint I separate the boxes with 1 bys cut to fit the frame perch. I have about a 1/2" gap between the boxes. Some paint does get on the
mating edges. It sticks almost as good as glue. I like the idea of the bees wax. I tried crisco on the edges and it helps. Wax sounds like a better way.
Sorry, this is untrue. I used to be a licensed paint contractor.
If you have a sprayer, use it. Be sure to backroll on your first coat to get all the paint into the wood. It's dry and thirsty. And yes, the corners are very important to backroll. Sometimes I backroll corners the second time around. But for the flat sides, once you've backrolled once, you are good to spray, using a 50% overlap technique. You will get all the coverage you need. It's a falsity that you want super thick paint; you want the proper amount so it can do its job.
Elevated levels of PCP and tin were found in bees and beeswax from hives treated with those preservatives. A detectable rise in copper content of honey was found in samples from hives treated with copper naphthenate. CCA treatment resulted in an increased arsenic content of bees from those hives. CCA, TBTO, and PCP treatments of beehives were associated with winter losses of colonies. Effect of Wood Preservative Treatment of Beehives on Honey Bees and Hive Products
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I'm interested in dipping boxes and pallets (my pallets are pressure treated as well) I want maximum longevity of the equipment.
I inquired about buying the microcrystaline and paraffin from a couple of places and the price is a little crazy. I do know 1 beekeeper using his own beeswax and paraffin , seems like a good idea but again not cost effective if you can sell the wax for 2x the price of the dipping materials.
What are you all using and where can I get it in CANADA ?
Thanks
I dip my pallets in asphalt roof primer thinned 50% then pressure wash and dip each time they come back in. I still have pallets I built in the 80's. As for hive bodies I dip in hot linseed oil with 20% pine rosin then two coats rustoleum with airless then hand brushed between coats then roll the edges and crisscross to dry. Some supers my dad in the late 50's are still around.
Any hints on prepping boxes that are pealing? I saw someone is using a power washer. I have always just sanded with an orbital sander before priming and painting. Some sand better than others.
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