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    I would like to thin my Valspar a little to paint the corners and handholds. What should I use? Water? Will a cpl coats of thinned Valspar penetrate the end grain better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    I would like to thin my Valspar a little to paint the corners and handholds. What should I use? Water? Will a cpl coats of thinned Valspar penetrate the end grain better?
    It should have a statement on the back of the bucket about proper thinning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    I use Valspar lately and boy do they stick together. Stacking them outdoors and leaving them in the weather a while seems to let them break their bond. Though that could just be my imagination.
    I also have this issue. I have been told that if the paint sticks it has not fully cured.

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    I use the Behr Marquee and even after a week of drying it will still stick together (It would make a fine glue). I rub both top and bottom edges with a pound block of beeswax, works great.
    Last edited by dynemd; 07-17-2014 at 12:18 AM. Reason: spelling
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    intheswamp, yeah I'm talking about on the hive. I use valspar. To paint I separate the boxes with 1 bys cut to fit the frame perch. I have about a 1/2" gap between the boxes. Some paint does get on the
    mating edges. It sticks almost as good as glue. I like the idea of the bees wax. I tried crisco on the edges and it helps. Wax sounds like a better way.

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    If you guys are INTENT upon finishing those edges see post #10.

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    Right, Woodlife. $16.00/gallon at Ace Hardware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CtyAcres View Post
    sqkcrk- Have your son put a second coat on those boxes or you'll regret it. Also Zinsser manufactures the product
    Woodlife that I use, you can't beat that for a seal coat before you stain or when finishing with a coat of paint.
    Wood Life has excellent sealing properties for soaking those corners.
    PS Wood life only costs about $16/gal at Ace Hardware I believe.
    Ok, I went back and looked for it but could not find anything with "Woodlife" and "Zinsser" in its name.

    Is this the same "Woodlife" that you're talking about? I see it associated with Rustoleum, Wolman and DAP,...
    http://www.rustoleum.com/~/media/Dig...ive%20TDS.ashx


    Besides for priming bee boxes, I'm really interested in this as opposed to Zinsser primer for an old house with some badly weathered/dry woodtrim that I need to paint. Anybody want to help?

    Btw, they recommend three coats for edges.

    Ed

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    ED- Yes that is the stuff. Zinsser name is on the back of that can. Zinsser kept lots of trade
    names in place on the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intheswamp View Post
    Anybody want to help?

    Ed
    Only if it pays in bees!

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    And don't use a airless spray rig, you have to put 3 or 4 coats of spray to equal 1 or 2 coats
    of paint, hand brushed.
    Sorry, this is untrue. I used to be a licensed paint contractor.

    If you have a sprayer, use it. Be sure to backroll on your first coat to get all the paint into the wood. It's dry and thirsty. And yes, the corners are very important to backroll. Sometimes I backroll corners the second time around. But for the flat sides, once you've backrolled once, you are good to spray, using a 50% overlap technique. You will get all the coverage you need. It's a falsity that you want super thick paint; you want the proper amount so it can do its job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TVBeek View Post
    When using exterior latex, has anyone experienced having the paint on the box mating edges stick together? I'm talking to the degree that separation is difficult. Is there a remedy?
    I used to have that happen every time, but no more. Now, before I put the box into service, I rub beeswax along the top and bottom. they no longer stick to each other. -james

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    Just a tip. Floetrol is a great product for thinning latex paints.

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    dose any one wax dip there equipment

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    >dose any one wax dip there equipment

    I do.

    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesdipping.htm
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    Elevated levels of PCP and tin were found in bees and beeswax from hives treated with those preservatives. A detectable rise in copper content of honey was found in samples from hives treated with copper naphthenate. CCA treatment resulted in an increased arsenic content of bees from those hives. CCA, TBTO, and PCP treatments of beehives were associated with winter losses of colonies.
    Effect of Wood Preservative Treatment of Beehives on Honey Bees and Hive Products
    Martins A. Kalnins and Benjamin F. Detroy
    J. Agric. Food Chem. 1984. 32, 1176-1180
    http://128.104.77.228/documnts/pdf1984/kalni84a.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted View Post
    dose any one wax dip there equipment
    Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted View Post
    dose any one wax dip there equipment
    .......and paint them while they are hot?

    What paint do you use?

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    I'm interested in dipping boxes and pallets (my pallets are pressure treated as well) I want maximum longevity of the equipment.
    I inquired about buying the microcrystaline and paraffin from a couple of places and the price is a little crazy. I do know 1 beekeeper using his own beeswax and paraffin , seems like a good idea but again not cost effective if you can sell the wax for 2x the price of the dipping materials.
    What are you all using and where can I get it in CANADA ?
    Thanks
    Ben Little <The Little Bee Farm> https://www.facebook.com/TheLittleBeeFarm
    Nova Scotia Canada

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