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  1. #1
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    Jun 2014
    Albertson, North Carolina

    Default wild swarm, HELP!!

    a coworker told me about a swarm of bees on the side of her house the night before. being late at night and concerned for her young children, her husband simply sprayed the swarm with a whole can of wasp killer and walked away. they hadn't seen any bee activity in their yard or on their house before that night. i was excited and fearful to hear this and my father and i hurried out to catch them with a homemade bee vac. when we got there 2 days later ( it took time to build a bee vac) the swarm seemed to have retreated into tiny gaps between the facial board and the brickwork on her house and were coming out in 2 locations. we pried back the board to see the bees and saw 2 large masses where we saw activity. the first day, we sucked up as many as we possibly could. thinking this to be a wild swarm, we thought we had them all and the queen. we took them home and they seemed to settle into their new hive. the next day i received a text from my coworker's husband saying that he had just been stung and there was still a large amount of bees. my father and i went there again that night and saw almost as many bees as we had taken the day before. we filled up my bee vac again this time finding 3 pieces of comb about 6 to 8 square inches with thin pale "honey" in a few of the chambers, but the bee's activity dropped off because of nightfall, so we couldn't tell how many more there are in the wall. we still heard a significant amount of buzzing from one of the locations, but because of the location in an overhang it was hard to get the vacuum in much less see how many were left. we brought the bees home and put them in another hive body. the two hives both seem to be doing well. there's plenty of activity to suggest that we have a queen in both. i've just received another text from my coworker telling me that there are still a large amount of bees coming out of the wall.
    it's obvious that the bees have been there much longer than we realized by the comb we found.
    my question is: are the bees just lingering in the new hives because they don't know what else to do without the queens pheromones or is there a queen in both new hives. is it possible that we missed her both times or did we catch 2 separate swarms? the hives are next to each other and are not fighting or merging.
    also, is there a third colony in the wall still? any advice would be helpful.
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  2. #2
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Casey, Il, USA

    Default Re: wild swarm, HELP!!

    I'm just a nobody but I wouldn't bring sprayed bees into my yard or equipment so I really don't know what to tell you, it could have been 2 swarms at the same location in 2 days I have heard of stranger things. You need to find out if you have a queen give them a few day in your hive to draw comb and see if you can find eggs or a queen, if no queen you would have to buy one or give them a frame of eggs to make their own, but like I said I wouldn't waste money or resources on a sprayed colony

  3. #3
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Rockford, MI

    Default Re: wild swarm, HELP!!

    My guess is that there is an established hive somewhere in the home and it has swarmed a few times.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Monroe Co., Indiana, USA

    Default Re: wild swarm, HELP!!

    Okay, now Harley brings up an interesting point (please forgive me if I am out of line here). Aren't most wasp sprays just a strong solvent? If so, I would think that once the solvent evaporates, any surviving bees would recover from the effects and be just fine. Is this not true?

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