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  1. #1
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    Default 100% acceptance, #8 wire cloth wrap

    Hi, All! The frame wire cloth wrap really works. I have been trying to introduce 2 new hygenic stock Cordovan (reddish yellow)
    queens from a bee farm to their new hives since last Friday after the hives are made queen less. The older worker bees kept on balling them
    after a few times of trying to separate them. Frustrated, I cut out a #8 window screen wire cloth to
    wrap around the entire frame with capped broods about to be hatch. In one frame I put in extra newly
    hatched bees and then put in the new queen bee.
    Today was the 3rd day so I free them by taking the wire cloths off. They did not ball any of them queens.
    So far so good with their 100% acceptance rate.
    Thanks to all who contributed to this idea. Though the other 3 queens inside a mini jzbz cage did not
    make it. They all got killed today. Oh well, back to the drawing board again to raise more queens this time.



    Pic of the wrap frame and its released new queens:
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    I luv bee source!

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    Default Re: 100% acceptance, #8 wire cloth wrap

    NICE!!! ( Queen photos)
    After 35 years, I've come to realize that the bees can fix most of my mistakes.

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    Default Re: 100% acceptance, #8 wire cloth wrap

    That cloth looks a little fine for #8, just sayin'...

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    Default Re: 100% acceptance, #8 wire cloth wrap

    That is a pretty nifty idea Beepro.
    Bill...in Southeast Ohio Zone 6A

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    Default Re: 100% acceptance, #8 wire cloth wrap

    Quote Originally Posted by dynemd View Post
    That cloth looks a little fine for #8, just sayin'...
    I second the motion #8 hardware cloth means you have 8 wires per inch. This is just a window screen mesh.

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    Default Re: 100% acceptance, #8 wire cloth wrap

    If you think that wire is 'window screen' go back and look at the top of photo #1. Count the wire 'holes' next to a bee. Sure looks like #8 to me. Also look to the bottom of that same photo to see how camera perspective changes the appearance of the same piece of screen as you look lower and the viewing angle changes.
    Graham
    USDA Zone 7A Elevation 1400 ft

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    Default Re: 100% acceptance, #8 wire cloth wrap

    Whether it is a mesh window screen #8 or just a simple window screen mesh, it serves the purpose of
    the queen introduction. You don't have to use a window screen wire mesh as long as it will hold the
    bees inside while keeping the workers out so they will not ball her. This idea works for me so far and I
    will use it again to minimize the queen loss. You can try similar experiment to see if this will work for you
    too. My queen is laying now because it reduced the time to hold her inside a mini cage. And today I received
    a call from the bee farm asking me to buy another queen bee. But I kindly declined. In 3 more days I can make
    some graft from them eggs. They will all be Cordovan queens to grow my operation. I'm glad that this simple
    window wire mesh works for me #8 or otherwise.
    I luv bee source!

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    Default Re: 100% acceptance, #8 wire cloth wrap

    8a.jpg 8 screen.jpg

    Here's some #8 cloth

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    Default Re: 100% acceptance, #8 wire cloth wrap

    Humm, your wire frame gave me the idea of putting the entire frame
    inside it. Once I figured out all the dimension then this is doable.
    Good idea for the improvement.
    Is your frame for queen introduction too? How so?
    I luv bee source!

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    Default Re: 100% acceptance, #8 wire cloth wrap

    I just take a flat piece of #8 cut up on four corners and make a box and puts it into a frame with a in side queen in side.
    David

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    Default Re: 100% acceptance, #8 wire cloth wrap

    How do you get the bees and queen in there once you wrap the frame in screening?
    Brian Cardinal
    Zone 5a, Practicing non-intervention beekeeping

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    Default Re: 100% acceptance, #8 wire cloth wrap

    That's a great idea and having the pictures makes it clear.

    But I want to know, too, how do you got the bees inside?

    Enj.

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