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  1. #21
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    Default Re: What's the best way to get bees out of supers for extracting?

    Roland,

    I am interested in this real bee blower, how it looks, where I could get one. Can you direct me? I think that using this in conjunction with fume boards might be the way I want to go.

    Thanks

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    Default Re: What's the best way to get bees out of supers for extracting?

    Can you weld?

    Crazy Roland

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    Default Re: What's the best way to get bees out of supers for extracting?

    My son and other friends can yes.

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    Default Re: What's the best way to get bees out of supers for extracting?

    I will try to scan a picture and post it, but have patience, I am a Luddite.

    Crazy Roland

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    Default Re: What's the best way to get bees out of supers for extracting?

    Bee go is the best.

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    Default Re: What's the best way to get bees out of supers for extracting?

    Bee go is sick stuff. Natural worked fairly well for me but I think this blower that is being discussed will work well in conjunction. Looking forward to the photos. Is this something you (Roland) designed yourself or is it commercially available somewhere or in use in other places?

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    Default Re: What's the best way to get bees out of supers for extracting?

    My hesitation with bee blowers is the risk of killing or damaging the queen. It makes perfect sense for a commercial guy using this method because time is money. Back yard beeks have a higher risk because they have much fewer hives they are working. I think one thing stink bombs do is clear the queen. Then you can do almost anything. I try to use smoke but that isn't fool proof either.
    Brian Cardinal
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    Default Re: What's the best way to get bees out of supers for extracting?

    I have for over 40 years used a common leaf blower with a shop vac hose and crevice nozzle attached. More recently I use an electric blower that came with the Ridgid Blower Vac I bought to power my Bushkill bee vac. I prefer electric as it is easier to turn on and off and less polluting. At sites with no power we use the gas leaf blower.
    For hives with no queen excluder we have a stand that aims the bees down onto the hive entrance. For the others we have a revolving table and chose a common spot to blow to.

    https://www.ridgid.com/us/en/16-gall...achable-blower

    http://www.dadant.com/catalog/produc...roducts_id=479


    We pull about 2.5 tons of crop with this method. No chemicals required, few bees killed, few mad bees, no extra lifting or equipment required.

  9. #29
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    Default Re: What's the best way to get bees out of supers for extracting?

    Quote Originally Posted by odfrank View Post
    For hives with no queen excluder we have a stand that aims the bees down onto the hive entrance. For the others we have a revolving table and chose a common spot to blow to.
    Does the chute insure that the queen goes back in the hive if she is in the super? Wow 67.50 for something that looks like a camp stool.
    Brian Cardinal
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  10. #30
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    Default Re: What's the best way to get bees out of supers for extracting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    Does the chute insure that the queen goes back in the hive if she is in the super? Wow 67.50 for something that looks like a camp stool.
    I agree. Seems like being a beekeeper is like being a boat owner. Prices for both are out of control. The good news is that the shipping is only $18.00 to my area. This shocked me because generally the product shipped=the product cost *1.5 minimum.

  11. #31
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    Default Re: What's the best way to get bees out of supers for extracting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland View Post
    I will try to scan a picture and post it, but have patience, I am a Luddite.

    Crazy Roland

    C'mon C'mon! we need to see that blower. My MIG welder is fired up and ready. Let's go man!

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    Default Re: What's the best way to get bees out of supers for extracting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    Wow 67.50 for something that looks like a camp stool.
    I thought it looked like a TV tray stand, with the top tray reworked into a panel.
    Pete. New 2013, 7 hives, zone 6a
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    Default Re: What's the best way to get bees out of supers for extracting?

    Patience you guys.

    It is pictured in an article on page 246 of the July 1966 ABJ. My local print shop can not scan, so I will have to trade squash to the neighbor to have him scan it.


    Ace, if you use a queen exclude, you do not have to worry about hurting the queen, unless you wish to, like when she is a drone layer.

    Crazy Roland

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    Default Re: What's the best way to get bees out of supers for extracting?

    Quote Originally Posted by odfrank View Post
    For hives with no queen excluder we have a stand that aims the bees down onto the hive entrance.
    Quote Originally Posted by Roland View Post
    Ace, if you use a queen exclude, you do not have to worry about hurting the queen, unless you wish to,
    Roland, Odfrank made the comment "with no queen excluder". That would be me so I would like to know the thinking for blowing bees when there is a possibility that you are driving the queen out of the box.
    Brian Cardinal
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    Default Re: What's the best way to get bees out of supers for extracting?

    Ave, I have never noticed a bee killed by air. The queen should be no different. Learn to use an excluder, they are useful tools.

    The Article and squash are at the neighbors to be scanned(not the squash), should have tomorrow night.

    Crazy Roland

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    Default Re: What's the best way to get bees out of supers for extracting?

    Duh, it is not the air that kills them it is hitting a hard object being carried off from high velocity air. This is most likely going to happen if you use a shop vac at full power.
    Brian Cardinal
    Zone 5a, Practicing non-intervention beekeeping

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    Roland,
    Is the Bee blower Dadant sells like you have? I attached a file.
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    Default Re: What's the best way to get bees out of supers for extracting?

    No. They are missing half of it. I will attempt to attach the article.
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    Default Re: What's the best way to get bees out of supers for extracting?

    Hmm. That was the second page, this might be the first:

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    Default Re: What's the best way to get bees out of supers for extracting?

    So Ace, do you really think the bees will get damaged on the angled chute?

    Crazy Roland

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