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    Default hive shrinking

    i have 1 russian extract hive--winter cluster was very small,active in early spring,and now in late april early may bees are not eating syrup and only have 1 frame honey half full( i did not harvest at all last year due to weird nectar flow)

    Bees are lethargic and not much brood-2nd year for this queen,and she is still visible

    hive appears to be dying

    help

    mike-(georgia)

    mmttoox1@juno.com

    ps have carniolan nuc coming in 2 weeks

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    Default Re: hive shrinking

    consider requeening, carniolian or italian would likely work real well for your area...mites?

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    [QUOTE=mathesonequip;1099468]consider requeening, carniolian or italian would likely work real well for your area...mites?[/QUOTE


    thought russians wrer more mite reisistant

    pulled a coupe of dying bee-didnt see any--tongue was stuck out-though

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    Default Re: hive shrinking

    [QUOTE=miketorr;1099470]
    Quote Originally Posted by mathesonequip View Post
    consider requeening, carniolian or italian would likely work real well for your area...mites?[/QUOTE


    thought russians wrer more mite reisistant

    pulled a coupe of dying bee-didnt see any--tongue was stuck out-though

    Pull out some drone brood, if you have mites you will see them there.
    More mite resistant is suggestive to a lot of other variables besides breed.
    More mite resistant is not mite invincible.
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    Default Re: hive shrinking

    Russians and Carniolans winter in small clusters.Bees with tongue sticking out indicates starvation.

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    Default Re: hive shrinking

    thanks-why arent they eating syrup--the feeder fits in mouth of hive-

    also nuc that i got was not that robust to start with

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    Default Re: hive shrinking

    When the temps are colder it is easier for the cluster to get syrup/sugar from directly above the cluster. Some feed with plastic bags on top of the frames with a couple of small slits cut in them. I am also from Georgia. The temps later should be enough for the girls to get out and forage. Still getting down in the 40's at night though...At times the entrance feeders cause robbing.
    Donny

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    Default Re: hive shrinking

    [QUOTE=miketorr;1099470]
    Quote Originally Posted by mathesonequip View Post
    consider requeening, carniolian or italian would likely work real well for your area...mites?[/QUOTE


    thought russians wrer more mite reisistant

    pulled a coupe of dying bee-didnt see any--tongue was stuck out-though
    That is like water resistant. if it rains you are still wet just in more resistant clothes.
    Stand for what you believe, even if you stand alone.

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    Default Re: hive shrinking

    as stated mite resistance is relative. the posters main problem may be mites. the russian crosses do not build up as fast under less than favorable conditions compared to the itallians and carni's. a lot of the Russians for sale are several generations later and my experience is smaller weaker colonies if the conditions are less than perfect...miketorr are mites part of the problem?

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