Got my first call to come get a swarm . The lady said it was big but you know when other people judge things you just have to see for your self. The lady was right I weighed the swarm when we got home and it weighed 5 pounds and was the size of a basket ball. It almost filled a ten framed deep. Saw the queen before we closed up the hive she was just beautiful a nice burnt orange color very easy to spot . I can't wait to see how she does this year during the flow. I hope that the size of the swarm is an indicator of the size of brood nest she keeps.