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  1. #1
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    Default Foundationless frames

    Anyone have good plans for modern foundationless frames for medium supers?

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    Default Re: Foundationless frames

    Here's a link to one of my earlier posts, with SketchUp plans linked to the image. There are several others, if you run a forum search.
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    Default Re: Foundationless frames

    Quote Originally Posted by Maplevalleykennel View Post
    Anyone have good plans for modern foundationless frames for medium supers?
    Not what you asked for, but it's just as easy or easier to buy wedge top frames, pop the wedge out, turn it 90 degrees then staple glue it back into place.
    Here's a video with me showing and discussing this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38SP...DATt5CampP4RtA

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    Default Re: Foundationless frames

    How thick are the sides, top, and bottom? And without the sides being routed won't the bees propolize them together?

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    Default Re: Foundationless frames

    These frame plans are not specifically foundationless, but will work if you add a comb guide to the underside of the top bar:
    http://www.beesource.com/build-it-yo...t-type-frames/

    For a comb guide I attach a triangle of wood (cut at 45 degrees from a 1/2" thick board) to the underside of the top bar between where the end bars meet the top bar. Another option is to glue a strip of wood into a slot cut in the top bar to act as a comb guide.
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    Default Re: Foundationless frames

    Quote Originally Posted by rweakley View Post
    "... but it's just as easy or easier to buy wedge top frames..]
    Kelly Beekeeping sells Lang frames specifically to be used without foundation. I believe it's their "F" style and they come in all 3 sizes.

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