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  1. #21
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    I have been runnig the Dewalt 13 for a number of years and have recently been planing a lot of rough lumber. I switched to the spiral cutter head $275 I think from eBay and it has made all the difference. I run have hickory, white oak, black walnut, cherry and sycamore thru it and it is still on the first side of the cutters. It gnaws right thru a 12" sycamore no problem

    Kent

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    If you are making bee equipment, look for a Delta 22-560 on Craigs list for $100 - $150.00. Cut your rough saw wood to length before planing and it will go a lot faster. I have 3 of these, and I would rate it 9.9 out of 10. Only drawback is an occasional snipe. Keep sharp blades. They are only $29.95 a set.

    cchoganjr

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    Cleo, do you mean width or length? If I get snipe after cutting to length then my joinery does not work out as well.
    “Why do we fall, sir? So that we might learn to pick ourselves up” Alfred Pennyworth Batman Begins (2005)

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    Cut both length and width, before planing, unless you are getting excessive snipe. My 3, 22-560 rarely snipe enough to be concerned. A belt sander will take it right out.

    cchoganjr

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    Sniping can largely be controlled/eliminated by simply leveraging the board as you feed it and remove it. The end of the board is getting pulled up into the cutter head so counter this by prying the ends down to the table. Lift the opposite end from the cutter up a tad forcing the other end down.
    Regards, Barry

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    The bees won't notice the snipe at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Sniping can largely be controlled/eliminated by simply leveraging the board as you feed it and remove it. The end of the board is getting pulled up into the cutter head so counter this by prying the ends down to the table. Lift the opposite end from the cutter up a tad forcing the other end down.
    Hmmmmm, wonder if adjusting the feed tables to do the same thing would help?

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    I don't follow. The only thing that moves in the process of planing is the board. Everything else is fixed. If anything, I think the rollers may need adjusting, more pressure. My planer doesn't snipe.
    Regards, Barry

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    We have 2 pairs of drive rollers in ours, one pair before, and one pair after the cutter. If I adjust up the lower rollers too far up, the cutter bites differently as the board climbs and falls off the bottom roller. I have found if I set them "proud" of the surface by about 10 "thou", I get minimal cutter digs. Your results may vary.

    Crazy Roland

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    Ross... My bees don't notice it either. HA!!!,

    But, I rarely get snipe.

    cchoganjr

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    After I plane I cut to length. I then stack and clamp 6 or 8 sides together to push through the dato on the saw using my finger jig. If I have snipe on the ends the board wants to not fit flat on the saw table or the clamped stack wants to rock. I also built a jig to square and nail the boards. If I sand the ends to make them less noticeable from the snipe the fingers stand proud and show off the mistake unless I sand them again. Since I use two screws to let the glue set (so I can rotate in the jig) I sand off the ends of the coated deck screws. I guess what it comes down to is when I go from building furniture I expect the same craftsmanship from myself. Snipe is 3” of firewood, not a joint face,
    “Why do we fall, sir? So that we might learn to pick ourselves up” Alfred Pennyworth Batman Begins (2005)

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    Snipe is pretty easy to minimize.
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    So is pregnancy but they both seem to keep happening!
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    yeah
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    Hey everybody thanks for all the talk. I want to go to a portable because I get snipe with my hand power plane, and I don't have much room in my shop. I didn't know about spiral blades either, I thought all planers had straight blades, so I will look into that. I have a Ryobi hand plane and like it except as noted. I use my shop vac, with home made wood adapters on most of my power tools for dust control, but it is not a perfect solution by far, and I will have to see about that. I am looking for a general purpose planer, but thinking a lot about ceder fence boards, because they smell good, they are cheepo, and the wood looks nice when the rough cut is planed down smooth.

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    I'm going to buy a Ridgid 4331 pretty soon. Ridgid is offering a lifetime warranty for the original purchaser on the unit. It has some double sided blades which I've been able to sharpen in the past for a friend. Two guys I know have them and haven't had problems with theirs in the past few years.
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    I have the dewalt 13 in DW735. I can't keep a set of blades sharp. Not sure what type of wood I have because I picked up a stack really cheap. The guy said he thought it was sweetgum but wasn't sure. I have been looking at the shellix head made by Byrd Tools. It is quite pricy though. Anyone used it, is it worth it?

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    If you do go the bench top used route, make sure you raise it up and check the in-feed and out-feed rollers real well. I have one that the in feed roller dry rotted on and ripped a huge chunk of the rubber stuff off. Unfortunately I have not been able to find a replacement, when I called the company they said they no longer carried the in-feed as a replacement part and recommended I look for a used one. Saving up for large floor type.
    "We'll just check real quick, we don't need our suits"

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbeeguy View Post
    I think 13 inches is about right, as it will handle up to a 12 by. If anyone has tried out the models from sears or hf or hd and can relate your experience and satisfaction level that would be great.
    I've owned the Harborfreight, "Central Machinery", 12 inch planer for a year now with excellent results and minimal snipe.

    I got it on sale at $ 289.oo, minus 20% off additionally with a coupon; at a time when FREE shipping was being offered. $ 245.07 w/tax.

    The HF model is identical to the low end "Grizzley" bench top planer.

    Ridgid makes some good tools, however; to get the "Lifetime" Service Warranty you MUST register it ! If you don't it's only a 2 year limited warranty. They will make you jump through some hoops to become registered "properly". Make certain to get verification and keep your receipts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texman034 View Post
    I have the dewalt 13 in DW735. I can't keep a set of blades sharp. Not sure what type of wood I have because I picked up a stack really cheap. The guy said he thought it was sweetgum but wasn't sure. I have been looking at the shellix head made by Byrd Tools. It is quite pricy though. Anyone used it, is it worth it?
    Some of the types of wood have a high silica content that just eats blades. I also looked at the Shellix head but figured I could push a bunch of wood through the planer. I sent Dewalt a nasty letter about the quality of their blades on just running it on walnut and they sent me a set free of charge.
    “Why do we fall, sir? So that we might learn to pick ourselves up” Alfred Pennyworth Batman Begins (2005)

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