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    Default Re: Govt to spend 3 million on bee pasture?

    Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa.
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    Default Re: Govt to spend 3 million on bee pasture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    No is that considered the midwest?
    Yes. I guess that question makes complete sense since you think Utica is in the Adirondacks.

    Do you even geography?
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    Default Re: Govt to spend 3 million on bee pasture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa.
    Is that all?
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    Default Re: Govt to spend 3 million on bee pasture?

    Pictures I see of Flint Hills looks like more grasses.
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    Default Re: Govt to spend 3 million on bee pasture?

    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    Is that all?
    Four states of corn is not enough?
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    Default Re: Govt to spend 3 million on bee pasture?

    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    Is that all?
    I guess some people (yourseld excepted) in the east, dont know about the Louisiana Purchase. So Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois are technically in the west and Iowa must be Indian territory.
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    Default Re: Govt to spend 3 million on bee pasture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa.
    You got 1/3 0f them. I have more cattle farm's around than corn fields, we do have some corn . I have a few locations where the bee's would never see a corn field and most farmers around here let fence row go not much bushing either. From tree bloom till golden rod always some thing in bloom.
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    Default Re: Govt to spend 3 million on bee pasture?

    i see it as nothing more than smoking mirrors. those funds will be sucked up by the suits before it even gets distributed. pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    Pictures I see of Flint Hills looks like more grasses.

    Yes natural prairie grasses. Is there something wrong with that? Earlier you were ranting about mono-cropping.
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    Default Re: Govt to spend 3 million on bee pasture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    This has got to be another government farce. Why would you want to support bees in the midwest? Monoculture corn???? bees don't collect nectar from corn. If the government was interested in bees they would have a program for the east coast were you can actually farm bees. Who in their right mind would farm bees in the midwest? Are we supposed to feel good about this?
    Guess you've never traveled in the upper midwest where this is being implemented, sprawling dairy farms of WI/MN and large pastures and praries in the Dakotas. That is why the commercial guys head there after almonds. East coast? You mean like Philadelhia, Long Island, Boston?
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    Default Re: Govt to spend 3 million on bee pasture?

    North and South Dakota are our top honey producing states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cg3 View Post
    North and South Dakota are our top honey producing states.
    There are bee's yard about every 4 mile with 40 to 60 hive's per yard. I have pic's from last summer in N Dakota but don't know how to post them here.

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    Default Re: Govt to spend 3 million on bee pasture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    Four states of corn is not enough?

    Four States do not make up the whole of the MidWest. There's a lot of honey produced in Iowa in case you didn't know. There is more to Iowa than corn, as well as those other States too.

    Just to bring Brian up to date, the Midwest is made up of 12 States. Those being IL, IN, IA, KS, MI, MN, MO, NE, ND, OH, SD, and WI. Lots and lots of good bee forage in those States.
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    Default Re: Govt to spend 3 million on bee pasture?

    Quote Originally Posted by tommysnare View Post
    i see it as nothing more than smoking mirrors. those funds will be sucked up by the suits before it even gets distributed. pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
    "smoking mirrors"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    Just to bring Brian up to date, the Midwest is made up of 12 States. Those being IL, IN, IA, KS, MI, MN, MO, NE, ND, OH, SD, and WI. Lots and lots of good bee forage in those States.

    And of those, only three (IA, IL, and NE) are really well know for corn production.

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    Default Re: Govt to spend 3 million on bee pasture?

    And in Illinois, only the central part of the state is wall to wall cornfields. North and south have lots of good forage.
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    Default Re: Govt to spend 3 million on bee pasture?

    Contrasted w/ NY which everyone knows is a big city that everyone from NY lives in.
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    Default Re: Govt to spend 3 million on bee pasture?

    OK,ok, you win. Seems like half the country is the midwest. That wasn't what I envisioned.

    Is the money actually going to go to areas that benefit bees or is it going to be swallowed up by the big farms with a make believe benefit?
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    Default Re: Govt to spend 3 million on bee pasture?

    Quote Originally Posted by hilreal View Post
    Guess you've never traveled in the upper midwest where this is being implemented, sprawling dairy farms of WI/MN and large pastures and praries in the Dakotas. That is why the commercial guys head there after almonds. East coast? You mean like Philadelhia, Long Island, Boston?
    Maybe if a program created more bee forage in other areas of the country, like the Eastern time zone states or the Mountain and Pacific time zone states bee keepers would have a decent alternative to the prairie.

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    Default Re: Govt to spend 3 million on bee pasture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    OK,ok, you win. Seems like half the country is the midwest. That wasn't what I envisioned.

    Is the money actually going to go to areas that benefit bees or is it going to be swallowed up by the big farms with a make believe benefit?
    Read the article, Ace. There are numerous benefits to the program:

    Dairy farmers and ranchers in Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin and the Dakotas can qualify for about $3 million to reseed pastures with alfalfa, clover and other plants appealing to both bees and livestock. Farmers also can get help building fences, installing water tanks and making other changes that better enable them to move their animals from pasture to pasture so the vegetation doesn't become worn down.


    Not to any deeper, but the article is titled "Government spending $3M to feed honeybees in Midwest" then goes on to mention Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin and the Dakotas. How could you have missed that?
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