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    Default Oxalic Acid - No longer a "pesticide."

    According to the EPA representatives who were present at the Md. State Beekeepers Mtg. today. OA is no longer listed as a pesticide and they (EPA) are actively pursuing its use as miticide and hope to have it approved for use in beehives later this year or early next.

    Now that's saying something....
    Last edited by snl; 02-15-2014 at 03:09 PM.
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    Default Re: Oxalic Aicd - No longer a "pesticide."



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    Default Re: Oxalic Aicd - No longer a "pesticide."

    So I will have to wait to use my new OxaVap Vaporizer until next year? lol

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    Default Re: Oxalic Aicd - No longer a "pesticide."

    Get ready for price increase.
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    Default Re: Oxalic Aicd - No longer a "pesticide."

    Yeah!

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    Default Re: Oxalic Aicd - No longer a "pesticide."

    OA will still be cheap...now the taxes that they tack on to it will be another story. $7 can just jumped to $20. Would someone like to tell me exactly why we need "gov't approval" to use something that we already know works????

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    Default Re: Oxalic Aicd - No longer a "pesticide."

    Quote Originally Posted by theriverhawk View Post
    Would someone like to tell me exactly why we need "gov't approval" to use something that we already know works????
    Don't get me started! I hear you loud and clear.
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    Default Re: Oxalic Aicd - No longer a "pesticide."

    Quote Originally Posted by theriverhawk View Post
    OA will still be cheap...now the taxes that they tack on to it will be another story. $7 can just jumped to $20. Would someone like to tell me exactly why we need "gov't approval" to use something that we already know works????
    Because we've had surprises in the past with people using stuff people "already knew that it worked". We are, after all, dealing with food here.

    I'm all for OA, but I'd rather the governments be stricter as far as what pesticides can be put on our foods, in general, than less. If they were a bit less inconsistent, though, it wouldn't hurt. Still amazes me how they'll take the word of any chemical company on their word, but they refused the data of OA tests made in Canada because it wasn't made in the US... The same applies to my own governments, of course.
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    Default Re: Oxalic Aicd - No longer a "pesticide."

    Can you say "crony capitalism"?
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    Default Re: Oxalic Aicd - No longer a "pesticide."

    Quote Originally Posted by theriverhawk View Post
    OA will still be cheap...now the taxes that they tack on to it will be another story. $7 can just jumped to $20.
    taxes for what? I think not.

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    Default Re: Oxalic Aicd - No longer a "pesticide."

    What brands of oxalic acid have you guys researched and found to pure enough for vaporizing .
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    Default Re: Oxalic Aicd - No longer a "pesticide."

    Quote Originally Posted by laketrout View Post
    What brands of oxalic acid have you guys researched and found to pure enough for vaporizing .
    Wood bleach that is 98% pure or higher is just fine. Savogran, sold by many stores as wood bleach, meets that requirement (or so the manufacturer has stated)...
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    Default Re: Oxalic Aicd - No longer a "pesticide."

    Is the savogran brand available at any of the chain stores .
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    Default Re: Oxalic Aicd - No longer a "pesticide."

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    Default Re: Oxalic Aicd - No longer a "pesticide."

    If the epa is doing something good there has to be more to the story.

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    Default Re: Oxalic Aicd - No longer a "pesticide."

    Thanks Rader , whats the EPA up to .
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    Default Re: Oxalic Aicd - No longer a "pesticide."

    Quote Originally Posted by laketrout View Post
    Thanks Rader , whats the EPA up to .
    The EPA is up to destroying the environment again. Go Figure.

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    Default Re: Oxalic Aicd - No longer a "pesticide."

    It would not surprise me to discover there might be a "business interest" working with the EPA on this.

    Something along the lines of .... A new "approved" product with pre-measured doses of OA, packaged and marketed specifically for the beekeeping industry. The price would of course be 10 times higher than the cost of "Wood Bleach". Just don't get caught using off label Savogran on your hives.
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    Default Re: Oxalic Aicd - No longer a "pesticide."

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Gillmore View Post
    Just don't get caught using off label Savogran on your hives.
    Once approved (if approved) how could anyone tell the difference between using "off label Savogran" or the "approved pre-measured doses?" No difference in product.
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    Default Re: Oxalic Aicd - No longer a "pesticide."

    Is two grams enough for a three medium brood chamber .

    Also from the conversion site I was at one gram equals 15.432 grains , can anyone confirm that .
    Last edited by laketrout; 02-16-2014 at 07:47 AM.
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