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    Default Setting Up Mating Nucs

    The weather isn't always perfect, and sometimes you doit no matter the weather. If I waited for a sunny calm day with temperatures around 60˚, nothing would ever get done.


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    Default Re: Setting Up Mating Nucs

    I was expecting more stinging. Nice frames of brood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian Quiney WI View Post
    I was expecting more stinging. Nice frames of brood.
    Adrian, I can video tape myself working around the hives next summer if you want to see more stinging? LOL

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    I like the new videos, Meat the cow is the best.
    Stephen 26 hives. 4th year. Treat. Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian Quiney WI View Post
    I was expecting more stinging.
    From happy bees??

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    Default Re: Setting Up Mating Nucs

    nice. thanks for sharing michael.
    journaling the growth of a treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives

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    Default Re: Setting Up Mating Nucs

    Michael,

    Can you give us a few more details?

    The mating nuc was overwintered on 8 mini-frames. The box you pulled had 4-5 frames that had been overwinterd, right? You have given it 5-6 frames of fondation. Was the bottom box another 4 frames that had overwintered and had been give frames of foundation?

    Thanks,

    Tom

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    Default Re: Setting Up Mating Nucs

    Mr. Palmer you mentioned the queen several times and the never mentioned what happened to her as you were making the mating nucs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWall View Post
    Michael,

    Can you give us a few more details?

    The mating nuc was overwintered on 8 mini-frames. The box you pulled had 4-5 frames that had been overwinterd, right? You have given it 5-6 frames of fondation. Was the bottom box another 4 frames that had overwintered and had been give frames of foundation?

    Thanks,

    Tom
    The nucs were doubles wintered on 8 combs each. At the beginning of May I added a super with 10 mini-combs to each...moving some brood up into the super. We broke down the nucs into the 4 way boxes giving each 2 brood a honey and an empty. The remaining combs with bees, brood and honey and the queen stayed in the super on the original stand. The 4 ways got moved to the mating yard and were given cells the next day. The supers (white boxes) with the queens were used to re-queen production colonies, and then the combs were recovered to go back on the mating nucs at the end of the mating season.

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    Default Re: Setting Up Mating Nucs

    Are you setting these up in a strong nectar flow, or prior to flow?
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    Default Re: Setting Up Mating Nucs

    Why do your inner cover bags have feeding holes if you keep feeder frames in the nucs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bevy's honeybees View Post
    Are you setting these up in a strong nectar flow, or prior to flow?
    No, a poor flow. Mid-April to mid-May we were in drought conditions. So dry that the bees never even visited the dandelion blooms...now that's a firs for me. Then mid-May to July it was cool and rainy. The temperature was in the low 50s. The next day, the cells went in the mating nucs...35˚ and blowing like crazy. Did my best to keep the cells warm...thermometer in the car, heat on full, place one cell bar of cells at a time and then back into the car to warm up.

    Worst take of the summer. 80 queens from 128 nucs. And I was supposed to set up another round of cell builders that afternoon...first time in my career that I had to postpone my day's work due to weather conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialkayme View Post
    Why do your inner cover bags have feeding holes if you keep feeder frames in the nucs?
    Those are for feeding for winter. The feeders hold enough for their first feeding in the spring, or an emergency feeding in the summer, but don't hold enough for winter feed. For that, I use gallon cans above the bag holes, with an empty box around them.

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    Looks good..

    Hopefully, I'll be doing the same thing next year... Minus the rain, tent, and cold weather... *cross fingers*
    Solo for the last 4 Years, ~60 Hives, TF + Oils.
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    michael, do you provide supplemental feed/protein to your starter/finishers?
    journaling the growth of a treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives

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    Quote Originally Posted by squarepeg View Post
    michael, do you provide supplemental feed/protein to your starter/finishers?
    Of course. I include a pollen comb next to the graft, and thin syrup while the bees are drawing the cells.

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    Default Re: Setting Up Mating Nucs

    so natural pollen for protein, and thin syrup only with nothing added?
    journaling the growth of a treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives

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    Default Re: Setting Up Mating Nucs

    That's right. If you're on a good flow you might not need the syrup.

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    Default Re: Setting Up Mating Nucs

    understood, many thanks.
    journaling the growth of a treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives

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    Default Re: Setting Up Mating Nucs

    Is the 4th frame in the mating nuc a honey frame? It looked like one, but I didn't hear you call it out on the comb placement directions.

    If it is a honey frame, do you save them from the year before? Or hope that you have some excess for spring make up?
    Solo for the last 4 Years, ~60 Hives, TF + Oils.
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