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    Default Farmers Abandoning GMO Seeds And The Reason Will Surprise You

    A growing number of farmers are abandoning genetically modified seeds, but it’s not because they are ideologically opposed to the industry.
    Simply put, they say non-GMO crops are more productive and profitable.

    http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/02/0...will-surprise/

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    Default Re: Farmers Abandoning GMO Seeds And The Reason Will Surprise You

    Interesting read. I hope it catches on as much as the article leads us to believe...but I suspect that, much like our treatments for varroa, GMO-producing companies will create new pesticides and [new pesticide]-ready crops to go with them. Like beekeepers, some farmers will use them and some won't.

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    Default Re: Farmers Abandoning GMO Seeds And The Reason Will Surprise You

    I will not argue the article , but for our farm it's the huge cost of buying hybrid seeds (which is what a lot of RR seeds are) that is making us think twice about growing it. With the depressed commodity prices margins start to get thin. Hybrids still out perform traditional stock no doubt, but if we are working with negative margins then we must cut those costs .

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    Default Re: Farmers Abandoning GMO Seeds And The Reason Will Surprise You

    Can you provide a link to the article? never mind there it is in front of my blind face!
    Last edited by Duncan Thacker; 02-06-2014 at 12:59 AM. Reason: DUMB

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    Default Re: Farmers Abandoning GMO Seeds And The Reason Will Surprise You

    I am little to say surprised.

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    Default Re: Farmers Abandoning GMO Seeds And The Reason Will Surprise You

    Quote Originally Posted by THE ABOVE REFERENCED ARTICLE View Post
    “Five years ago the [GMO seeds] worked,” said farmer Christ Huegerich, who along with his father planted GMO seeds. “I didn’t have corn rootworm because of the Bt gene, and I used less pesticide. Now, the worms are adjusting, and the weeds are resistant. Mother Nature adapts.”
    Man plans and God laughs (along with Mother Nature)

    There is as much talk about resistance as there is about cost effectiveness. Regardless of the reasons GOOD RIDDENCE !!!!!

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    Default Re: Farmers Abandoning GMO Seeds And The Reason Will Surprise You

    There was a study awhile back by an actual scientist. http://www.producer.com/2013/05/no-y...ids-scientist/ In any case I hope it catches on. In Ontario sadly untreated seeds are not available to farmers.

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    Default Re: Farmers Abandoning GMO Seeds And The Reason Will Surprise You

    I am not familiar with "Waking Times" magazine, but it does not appear to be your usual AG mag. In the mag. are articles about the Soul and Physical Body converging through evolution..... hmm. Think I will stick to the Progressive Farmer.
    “Don’t tell me how educated you are, tell me how much you have travelled.” - The Quran

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    Default Re: Farmers Abandoning GMO Seeds And The Reason Will Surprise You

    It's all about the bottom line. I'm cringing as quite a few local farms are cutting down windbreaks and tilling slopes they didn't before so they can plant even more.

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    Default Re: Farmers Abandoning GMO Seeds And The Reason Will Surprise You

    I don't hear any talk of farmers in my area dropping the Gmo seed. I think they all plan to use it for their corn and beans this year.

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    Default Re: Farmers Abandoning GMO Seeds And The Reason Will Surprise You

    There may be some truth to this. Here is something I know for sure. A profile of the American farmer is that he/she is a bright risk taking, profit driven, entrepreneur, who usually carries a pretty heavy debt load. If there is an opportunity seen across the fence it catches on quickly. No articles in magazines are required, word of success spreads like wildfire in farming circles. If one needs to see what's making money right now, one only needs to look at what is being grown.
    "People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe."- Andy Rooney

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    Default Re: Farmers Abandoning GMO Seeds And The Reason Will Surprise You

    It always gets me when non farmers make statements like this "Simply put, they say non-GMO crops are more productive and profitable."

    They have no idea what they are talking about...
    Ian Steppler >> Canadian Beekeeper's Blog
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    Default Re: Farmers Abandoning GMO Seeds And The Reason Will Surprise You

    Quote Originally Posted by jim lyon View Post
    If there is an opportunity seen across the fence it catches on quickly. No articles in magazines are required, word of success spreads like wildfire in farming circles.
    I watched a program on TV the other night about feeding America and the way we farm today compared to our grandparents way. Only 2% of the population are farming. The overall feeling one got from watching it was bleak, but near the end several key players admitted that the shift is starting to happen. Less corn feed beef is being consumed forcing that industry to start moving in a new direction. A lot more produce is being grown in city/urban areas that locals are buying, etc. There is a shift starting to take place and eventually how we farm will also have to adjust.
    Regards, Barry

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    Default Re: Farmers Abandoning GMO Seeds And The Reason Will Surprise You

    ian post #3 above has a valid point. I am in a marginal corn area, mostly corn for dairy forage. last year a couple of neighbors went back to older hybrids to cut input costs. they trimmed up front costs by something like $85/acre as I recall. their corn looked as good or better than a lot of it in the area. in the past the chemical and seed companies tend to try to go toward pricing their products so they are making most of the money not the grower.
    Last edited by mathesonequip; 02-08-2014 at 08:30 AM.

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    Default Re: Farmers Abandoning GMO Seeds And The Reason Will Surprise You

    [QUOTE=Barry;1056619There is a shift starting to take place and eventually how we farm will also have to adjust.[/QUOTE]

    only if the consumer will pay for that shift, demand only goes half way
    Ian Steppler >> Canadian Beekeeper's Blog
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    Default Re: Farmers Abandoning GMO Seeds And The Reason Will Surprise You

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    It always gets me when non farmers make statements like this "Simply put, they say non-GMO crops are more productive and profitable."

    They have no idea what they are talking about...
    Just an hour ago, I asked one of our Corn'Soybean guys what he would think of switching to a Non-GMO variety. He said he did not think that it would be possible to obtain enough seed for a typical commercial planting. And if he was able to, it would mean he could only plant perhaps half of his normal acreage (4k to 6k acres). He also added, before you start to count your profits, don't forget to take into consideration the cost of all that diesel to cultivate those crops and the pesticides that would be required. Those airplanes aren't cheap and besides that you can't leave your hives out there....

    Sure... non-GMO will work in the garden, and in subsistence scale farming, but on an industrial farm - no way. There are no more 300 acre farms.... they all farm thousands of acres...
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    Default Re: Farmers Abandoning GMO Seeds And The Reason Will Surprise You

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    only if the consumer will pay for that shift, demand only goes half way
    Don't you think that consumers care more that food is produced that how food is produced?
    Mark Berninghausen "That which works, persists."

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    Default Re: Farmers Abandoning GMO Seeds And The Reason Will Surprise You

    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    Don't you think that consumers care more that food is produced that how food is produced?
    A few care how it is produced, but they are a distinct minority.
    “Don’t tell me how educated you are, tell me how much you have travelled.” - The Quran

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    Default Re: Farmers Abandoning GMO Seeds And The Reason Will Surprise You

    But that pendulum is swinging evermore to the "how food is produced" side.
    Regards, Barry

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    Default Re: Farmers Abandoning GMO Seeds And The Reason Will Surprise You

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    But that pendulum is swinging evermore to the "how food is produced" side.
    Maybe. But for the moment it seems to be tied to the economic as well as educational status of the buyer.
    “Don’t tell me how educated you are, tell me how much you have travelled.” - The Quran

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