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  1. #1
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    Default Am I on the right track?

    I plan to start with 2 hives. Today I reserved 2 nucs from a seller about 3 hours away. They will be available around April 22 depending on the weather. I paid $150 each.

    I have been researching what hives to get and I think I have decided on getting

    2 10-Frame Complete Hives not assembled
    20 black 8-3/8 plastic foundation (ea)
    2 Deep Plastic Division Bd Feeder
    2 Frame select assembled Medium DT Super
    20 Assembled 6 1/4 white super frame (ea)
    2 10-Frame Plastic Queen Excluder
    2 10-Frame Entrance Reducer
    Smoke Stack Smoker
    Hive Pry Tool
    Hood
    Gloves

    Am I on the right track with the parts I have picked out?

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    Default Re: Am I on the right track?

    might as well build the supers yourself as well and the frames--unless you have no time its a good winter activity and you can save some money
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    Default Re: Am I on the right track?

    I am not good at constructing things. I wish I could to save the $.

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    Default Re: Am I on the right track?

    Yes, it sounds like you doing ok. I myself would rather have a metal queen excluder because the plastic kinda flexes and flips when you lift it as it's glued down with propolis and it can flick bees. Other than that, what you chose should work for you.
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    Default Re: Am I on the right track?

    Would you mind a stray opinion? As a newbee with just 2 hives, consider using all one size of equipment. Use all deeps or all mediums for EVERYTHING. It makes life so much easier when one size can do whatever you need done at the moment. When you use one size for brood and another for honey, invariably when you need something in a hurry, you don't have the size you need. Been there and done that. Make your equipment as simple and interchangeable as possible.


    JMO

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    Default Re: Am I on the right track?

    Thanks, I will change my cart around and make the recommended changes. I have some time before I have to place my order. I would like to get the hives at least a month before my bees arrive so the paint will be cured.

    Is it better to paint the hives or varnish them? I am still learning.

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    Default Re: Am I on the right track?

    I really wouldnt worry too much about queen excluders. The queen will typically only lay in the bottom two brood boxes. They are useful (almost essential) queen rearing, but in your first year not a necessity.

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    Default Re: Am I on the right track?

    Welcome to Beesource!

    I like Rusty's suggestion about all one size box (I use only 10 frame mediums), but one consideration is that you are buying nucs, not packages. Most nucs are likely to be using deep frames, so figure out how that is going to fit into your plans.

    Paint vs varnish is partly a appearance/preference issue, but UV rays from the sun are damaging to wood. Paint is likely to do a better job of blocking UV than varnish, IMO.
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    Default Re: Am I on the right track?

    Skip the queen excluders, they will only frustrate you. You really don't need them yet. For some reason they get lumped in with the other beginner beekeeper equipment in books and such, but you really need to be an experienced beekeeper to use them properly. Save the $$$ and get a couple more boxes.

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    Default Re: Am I on the right track?

    The nucs are deep frames. i switched everything to deep frames.

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    Default Re: Am I on the right track?

    Quote Originally Posted by hjsmith00843 View Post
    The nucs are deep frames. i switched everything to deep frames.
    Remember that you will be needing honey supers. You don't want them to be deeps....
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    Default Re: Am I on the right track?

    Welcome to the bee world. It might pay to do a reality check before you go any further. Beekeeping can be very addictive.
    Should you continue ( I hope you do) strongly suggest going for 8 frame boxes. they are a lot lighter. Believe wire excluders are better.

    I like the idea of doing the assembly yourself.

    Have fun

    Geoff

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    Default Re: Am I on the right track?

    Quote Originally Posted by BeeCurious View Post
    Remember that you will be needing honey supers. You don't want them to be deeps....
    For the first season, flexibility seems more important to me. After that he'll no doubt start collecting equipment as compulsively as the rest of us do! But that first season when every box counts, one size really is better. He'll be able to do whatever he needs to do.

    JMO

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    Default Re: Am I on the right track?

    double post.
    Last edited by Rusty Hills Farm; 01-16-2014 at 09:48 PM.
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    Default Re: Am I on the right track?

    Also, when you order your supplies and bee boxes, you'll have to choose what "grade" of wood.. economy, good, best.... For the small difference in $$, I'd suggest you go with Best". There are no knots or tight knots in the wood. I've given the "good" a try and while they will work, IMHO they won't last as long

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    Default Re: Am I on the right track?

    I'm happy to have all mediums... They're really nice when having only one size of box.

    I would opt for a single deep and two mediums for the brood nests plus additional mediums for supers...
    BeeCurious
    Trying to think inside the box...

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    Default Re: Am I on the right track?

    I did mostly all deeps this year, honey is deceptively and when stacked high very awkward to lift. If you're going to do it, make sure you have a REALLY good buddy.

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    Default Re: Am I on the right track?

    Quote Originally Posted by hjsmith00843 View Post
    I plan to start with 2 hives. Today I reserved 2 nucs from a seller about 3 hours away. They will be available around April 22 depending on the weather. I paid $150 each.

    I have been researching what hives to get and I think I have decided on getting

    2 10-Frame Complete Hives not assembled
    20 black 8-3/8 plastic foundation (ea)
    2 Deep Plastic Division Bd Feeder
    2 Frame select assembled Medium DT Super
    20 Assembled 6 1/4 white super frame (ea)
    2 10-Frame Plastic Queen Excluder
    2 10-Frame Entrance Reducer
    Smoke Stack Smoker
    Hive Pry Tool
    Hood
    Gloves

    Am I on the right track with the parts I have picked out?
    Looks good to me.

    Come March and April why don't you come over to Conway for the weekly NY Beekeepers Meeting at Ryans on 501, usually on Thursdays? Maybe you'd like to get into some hives w/ me. I have a lot of them. I could introduce you to a queen rearer.
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    Default Re: Am I on the right track?

    I'd double check to make sure that entrance reducers aren't included with your complete hive kit. I would think they would be. No need to buy two extras if they are included. Good luck with all the decisions!
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    Default Re: Am I on the right track?

    after doing some research in my local area I have located some used hives and supers. Picking them up early next week. I will be getting 5 sets. (minus frames) for cheaper than one of the new hives.

    He said they are not rotted in anyway but they could use a cleaning and paint. I think that will be a fun project for the winter months getting the used hives refurbished.

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