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    Default Installing Megabee Winter Patties

    hello, how do I install the megabee winter patty? Do I take the paper off first? Also how many patties do I need per hive?

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    Default Re: Installing Megabee Winter Patties

    darby...go to ....tucson bee diet...it will tell you how to use it...greg
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    Default Re: Installing Megabee Winter Patties

    This link to megabeediet.com website should provide the appropriate answers.

    I make my own Winter patties. I sandwich my patty material between two sheets of waxed paper. Just before I place the patties on the Top Bars, just above the brood nest, I make several slits with a knife, about 1/4" apart, then place the patties, cut side down - waxed paper is little hindrance to the bees, they remove it quickly.
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    Default Re: Installing Megabee Winter Patties

    The Mega-Bee Winter Patties are sold by Dadant and are 97% sugar. When the weather gets so cold here that I button up the hives for winter I put four of them on the top bars of my ten frame deeps as added insurance. On nice days in the winter, I peak to see if they have finished them all and quickly slide another one in if they have. I feel that they are a great product to prevent the early spring, late winter, starvation that impacts many.

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    Default Re: Installing Megabee Winter Patties

    Quote Originally Posted by darby View Post
    hello, how do I install the megabee winter patty? Do I take the paper off first? Also how many patties do I need per hive?
    Years ago Iasked the same question about paper removal and a guy said to always remove it as why would you want the bees to do the extra work. Any idea about how many bee mouth fulls of paper it would require?

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    Default Re: Installing Megabee Winter Patties

    The other reason I try to keep the waxed paper on the patties, and as intact as possible - is that without the paper, the patties have a tendency to quickly dry out and become rock hard. After that the bees don't consume them, they just pull them out of the hive, in pieces, and discard them (too much of a waste). Even with the paper intact, this still happens with smaller pieces that remain after the bees have consumed the majority.
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    Default Re: Installing Megabee Winter Patties

    Patties I have handled have holes in the paper on one side. That's the side you face towards the cluster. I know guys that remove the paper from one side. I see that as wasted time. It may make the patty more readily available to the bees, but it isn't necessary.
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    Default Re: Installing Megabee Winter Patties

    Very good point about drying out. I don't remember that problem but maybe it was because when I made the patties the instructions I used said to include cooking grease like Crisco I think, anyway it was not the liquid type.

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    Default Re: Installing Megabee Winter Patties

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    Default Re: Installing Megabee Winter Patties

    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Clemens View Post
    The other reason I try to keep the waxed paper on the patties, and as intact as possible - is that without the paper, the patties have a tendency to quickly dry out and become rock hard.
    On the other hand I make mega bee candy which is rock hard to begin with and it absorbs moisture in the hive and the bees love it. Different locations.
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    Default Re: Installing Megabee Winter Patties

    Good point. Around here it is so dry, unless it is raining, that when I'm inspecting, and find a patty that has dried out, I set it in a shallow tray of warm water, or spritz it heavily with a spray bottle (depending on how dry it is), before returning it to the bees. I also use lots of Canola oil in my patty recipe, which does help, too.
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    Default Re: Installing Megabee Winter Patties

    My experience feeding pollen supplement in the winter is that the bees, if they can't take a cleansing flight for a considerable amount of time will have dysentery. If I were Darby I would not put them on my hive. Unless it's a mild winter could be a problem in the north.

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    Default Re: Installing Megabee Winter Patties

    Camero7, you are right, I had not seen the Maine address. They will not have much of a need now until spring anyway.
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    Default Re: Installing Megabee Winter Patties

    I think some people are confusing the Megabee Winter Patties with regular Megabee Patties. The Winter Patties are not meant to be a pollen substitute. They are a cold weather feed like fondant. That's why they only have a slight amount of Megabee in them.

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    Default Re: Installing Megabee Winter Patties

    I still wouldn't put them in my hives. In some studies bees wintered better on sugar than honey. It was attributed to the lack of the other ingredients in normal honey. Just my opinion and experience.

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    Default Re: Installing Megabee Winter Patties

    Everything has a risk /reward. The colder the less reward to me, not much going on inside that pollen will not support. I do plan on adding sub to the mountain in the spring.
    Haven't tried it, you may be right.
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    Default Re: Installing Megabee Winter Patties

    I've used the winter patties for three winters in a row, and haven't lost a hive during the winter or spring. I only have eleven hives so it's not a large sample size, but they sure seem to work for me.

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