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    Default tree stand for swarm trap

    sorry if this has been covered before, but has anyone seen a design for a tree stand similar to what deer hunters use made to support a swarm trap? seems like it would be just the ticket with easy on and off, adjustable height, ect.
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    Default Re: tree stand for swarm trap

    I use these for trap outs, same design:







    Wedge Board in a tree fork my even be handier, depending on the location. Take a 16" long piece of 2 x 6, cut a beveled inward "V" in each end, cram in the fork of a tree long-ways and set your swarm trap on top.


    I like Ollie's idea best though of leaving swarm traps about 3' off the ground.

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    Default Re: tree stand for swarm trap

    nice pix d, thanks!
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    Default Re: tree stand for swarm trap

    Why not just stick them in the tree stands??

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    Default Re: tree stand for swarm trap

    I use the my older stands and hang them upside down. That gives me a larger area for the trap. Also if another hunter sees it they are less likely to try to use it come hunting season.
    Zone 6b 1400'

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    Default Re: tree stand for swarm trap

    I put a trap up in my deer stand this spring while turkey hunting and got a swarm. I don't know if I would go through the effort to build something like a tree stand just to hold a swarm trap, but if you have some stands already hanging why not use them. Worked for me, and I have another 4 tree-stands in mind that are going to get traps this spring.

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    Default Re: tree stand for swarm trap

    Added plus, iot would give you a nice stable platform to lower the hive to the ground!

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    Default Re: tree stand for swarm trap

    With a simple modification, this french cleat system can be strapped to the tree very easily. I will be using this system come spring.

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    Got this off the net.

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    Default Re: tree stand for swarm trap

    I agree with Beeman - the French Cleat system works well. I made some traps and hung them this year. Attached is a picture of a trap with a French cleat that was successful. ... well, almost - I had to transfer into a hive as they were building comb on the outside of the box off the lid.

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    I'll try and get a picture of one of my hangers and post it sometime this week. I made them so they would go up easily with a ratchet strap.

    PAHunter62

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    Default Re: tree stand for swarm trap

    >I like Ollie's idea best though of leaving swarm traps about 3' off the ground.

    I never place them higher than I can reach with my feet on solid ground. Caught thirty last season and fifty and more previous years. I admit that height might give an advantage, but I believe in KISS.
    Keep It Simple Stupid.

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    Default Re: tree stand for swarm trap

    Which branch of the service were you in Frank?

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    Default Re: tree stand for swarm trap

    I agree with Ollie also - I place mine around farm fields or gas lines where I have access with my pickup truck. I back up to the tree, hang my bracket, or put a couple common nails in the tree and place the traps from standing in the bed of my truck. Mine are in remote areas 4 hours from my primary residence, so I want them out of easy reach from the ground. Best advice is to be safe.

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    Default Re: tree stand for swarm trap

    good tip 62. i only have three to set around my farm, and i can easily back my truck up to the trees. looking forward to that pic of your bracket when you get a chance, thanks.
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    Default Re: tree stand for swarm trap

    I have to ask PA...... why hang swarm traps 4 hours away from home? That's a full day just driving to check them.

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    Default Re: tree stand for swarm trap

    Quote Originally Posted by odfrank View Post
    but I believe in KISS.
    Do you think ley lines might have something to do with your success.

    cchoganjr

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    Default Re: tree stand for swarm trap

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Beeman View Post
    I have to ask PA...... why hang swarm traps 4 hours away from home? That's a full day just driving to check them.
    I set my remote traps on a farm my brother owns. My father checks on them about once per week. I have one old brood comb in them and 7 foundationless frames (mediums). I take extra care to level the traps side to side to ensure good comb building. This way I can leave them alone until I get a weekend I can retrieve them. I get a family visit in and some free bees. This year I captured swarms in 6 of 7 traps set on the farm. Last year I was 1 for 3. We will be establishing an Apiary at that location after the spring thaw.

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    Default Re: tree stand for swarm trap

    Quote Originally Posted by PAHunter62 View Post
    I back up to the tree, hang my bracket, or put a couple common nails in the tree ...
    Man, I'm looking at those great pictures feeling guilty because I drive a 6" spike into a tree to hang my swarm trap from. Most of my locations are along sheltered creeks and fence lines with scrubby, crappy trees. And I only hang them as high as I can reach from the ground. No more ladders on uneven ground. No fear of falling and having to direct the paramedics to some remote location. I don't deer hunt, but if I did, I'd have a blind on the ground as well.

    I do love the ingenuity that ratchet straps enables. Good pics, too.

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    Default Re: tree stand for swarm trap

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleo C. Hogan Jr View Post
    Do you think ley lines might have something to do with your success.cchoganjr
    No, I do not gett leyed too much.

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    Default Re: tree stand for swarm trap

    OK, finally got home in time to take a picture of my hanging bracket.

    Two things I considered when making these:

    - I wanted to use cheap ratchet straps to hang the traps. This will make it easier to garner permission to hang traps on someone else's property. Did not want to use nails or screws.

    - wanted to provide support under the cleat in the event the trap wanted to tilt/lift up a little.

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    The key thing to keep in mind is to have the vertical long enough where the block at the top his higher than the trap lid. The ratchet strap runs underneath this top block when hanging to the tree/post/whatever. I made a bunch with some scrap pieces of 2x6, 3/4 inch plywood for the cleat, and the top block I got from Lowe's dumpster - banding boards that their pallets of lumber are strapped down with.

    Try and keep material costs close to zero.

    The cleat on the trap, I place on the side of the trap - this makes it easy to level the trap when I hang them by placing a wedge at the top or bottom of the hanger as needed (I fill the trap with foundationless frames, so the side to side leveling is important).

    BracketInUse.jpg

    Above is an example of a trap hung in my back yard - kind of a poor job actually, but you get the idea. Under the cleat, I added a scrap piece of 3/4 inch stock (same thickness of the cleat). You can see the trap slid up a wee bit in the cleat, but is not able to tilt more because I blocked the hanger out under the cleat.

    One other advantage of this system is - if you have a hot location, you can lift a captured swarm off the hanger, and drop a new trap onto it and go. Easy beezy!

    If you have any more questions, ask.

    PAHunter62
    Last edited by PAHunter62; 01-08-2014 at 03:33 PM.

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    Default Re: tree stand for swarm trap

    Is there something that prevents the nuc from hopping off the cleat if bumped from below? Thanks for sharing, intriguing.

    Don

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