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    Default It's a hand hole, isn't it?

    That oblong hole found in the middle of inner covers, it's called a hand hole, isn't it? That's what I was instructed to call it.

    What do you call it? If anything. What do you use it for? I think that it is a pretty standard size so a bee escape will fit into it. Three or four fingers will fit into it too.

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    Default Re: It's a hand hole, isn't it?

    Mark it's early have another cup of coffee.

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    Default Re: It's a hand hole, isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
    Mark it's early have another cup of coffee.
    Thanks Birdman. Don't drink coffee and it's an hour later here and this was brought up yesterday in another Thread and I wanted other points of view.

    We could be talking about something that really matters I guess.
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    Default Re: It's a hand hole, isn't it?

    The wheels on the bus go round and round ....

    From earlier this year, the same subject:
    http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...ner-cover-quot

    There are some serious responses, including one from Michael Palmer.

    And then there is this one:
    Quote Originally Posted by Brad Bee View Post
    I thought you folks were smarter than this.

    It's called the B hole.

    If it was on an ant hive it would be called the A hole.
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    Default Re: It's a hand hole, isn't it?

    by some odd coincidence the oblong hole is exactly correct for a porter style bee escape.

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    Default Re: It's a hand hole, isn't it?

    Utility hole. bee escape, feed, hand, vent, smoke, entrance for ant and roaches, and launching pad for the bee's.

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    Default Re: It's a hand hole, isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mathesonequip View Post
    by some odd coincidence the oblong hole is exactly correct for a porter style bee escape.
    But was the escape made to fit the hole or was the hole made to fit the escape? The shape would be a simple one to make with common tools. drill two holes of proper diameter and then cut a straight line from one hole to the next. It does not make nearly as much since to design an escape to such a shape. For this reason I suspect the hole was already present and the escape was designed to fit it.
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    Default Re: It's a hand hole, isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post

    We could be talking about something that really matters I guess.
    Personally, this suits me just fine. Ive read so many posts that mentions the word 'feral' that I could scream.

    Hand hold is my vote-makes the inner cover easier to carry.

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    Default Re: It's a hand hole, isn't it?

    It's a tool. Use it as you see fit.
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    Default Re: It's a hand hole, isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by VolunteerK9 View Post
    Personally, this suits me just fine. Ive read so many posts that mentions the word 'feral' that I could scream.

    Hand hold is my vote-makes the inner cover easier to carry.
    I'll vote for hand hole also

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    Default Re: It's a hand hole, isn't it?

    In 4 years, I don't think I've ever use that for my fingers more then 10 times. It's the feed hole.

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    Default Re: It's a hand hole, isn't it?

    I wonder too. One of the inner covers I bought came with a rectangular opening, about the same size.
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    Default Re: It's a hand hole, isn't it?

    I call it "that hole in the inner cover".

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    Default Re: It's a hand hole, isn't it?

    There are many kinds of holes I don't put my hand into and a 'bee escape hole' is one of them. I don't wear gloves.

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    Default Re: It's a hand hole, isn't it?

    We really should be able to get at least 150 posts to this thread........... this is important!!!!
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    Default Re: It's a hand hole, isn't it?

    I call it, " hole in the inner cover".

    I don't have any, because, I don't use inner covers.

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    Default Re: It's a hand hole, isn't it?

    I call it the inner cover hole or top vent or top entrance.

    My strong hives seal em up eventually since I have kelley plastic covers that allow bee space. Wooden top covers essentially seal to the inner cover, so not much of a point for a hole. I don't think the top hole is neccessary with SBB. Maybe except in a strong flow or on very hot days.

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    Default Re: It's a hand hole, isn't it?

    Originally, it was called an escape hole as that's where one would place the Porter Bee Escape when removing honey. That's the reason that they are...at least the original pattern is rounded on the ends. To accept the escape.

    Since almost no one knows what a Porter Bee Escape is, or uses one of that style escape, no one remembers the real name.

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    Default Re: It's a hand hole, isn't it?

    If there were openings in inner covers before 1891 what would have been their principal use?
    Last edited by BeeCurious; 10-25-2013 at 06:13 PM. Reason: "Hand hole"? How many reasons would there be for placing one's hand in the hole?
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    Default Re: It's a hand hole, isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    That oblong hole found in the middle of inner covers, it's called a hand hole, isn't it? That's what I was instructed to call it.

    What do you call it? If anything. What do you use it for? I think that it is a pretty standard size so a bee escape will fit into it. Three or four fingers will fit into it too.

    Thanks,
    MarkB

    Sorry but it's the escape hole.

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