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Do you try to provide extra drones

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#1 ·
How many of you guys go to the trouble of providing extra drones for breeding virgin queens, especially if you are only try to raise 20-30 queens a year?
 
#5 ·
Jon -
If you are just trying to get that few mated, you do not need to drone flood.

If you are trying to improve your bloodline, you would do well to raise more queens, and to set up a mating yard surrounded by drone colonies about 3/4 mile away. It takes a lot of high-quality drone colonies to flood an area unless there are few or no local feral bees or other beekeepers' colonies.

It is a good project for a bee club if nobody has enough hives to drone flood, but you all need to get together on which trait you are trying to promote, and get the same source of drone colonies going. It would also help to identify the local DCA's (drone congregating areas) and avoid them by better than 7 miles, preferably 10 miles.
 
#6 ·
I do, but then I am apparently the only beek for miles around. In the 8 years I have been here, the only bees I see are my own (readily identifiable because I keep Cordovans). Before I started keeping bees again, I would go entire seasons and not see a single domestic bee, only bumbles. So now I pack my hives with drone foundation when I am going to raise any queens, just so there will be somebody--ANYBODY--out there to breed them! So far it has worked because even the new hives are solidly Cordovan.

Rusty
 
#7 ·
Actually Rusty you are in a pretty lucky situation, where I am there is every mongrel imaginable in the area I sell queens but cannot get pure mating. I do use drone combs to tilt things my way, but 100% pure is near impossible.
 
#8 ·
I have to concur about your lucky situation - you are in envyable position to control breeding somewhat while still using open mating.

Keep your drone colonies 1/2 to 1 mile away from your mating yard. Raise many drones, kill the bad drones (re-queen their mommy queens), even kill drone brood with your uncapping fork.

Read Harry Laidlaw Jr.'s books on queen rearing, especially Contemporary Queen Rearing - the chapter about setting up a breeding program. Also read Dr. Lawrence J. Connor's book, Bee Sex Essentials.

Your situation reminds me of Brother Adam's situation in Devon, England, where his breeding yards were miles from any other bees. You would do well to read his books, Beekeeping at Buckfast Abbey, Breeding the Honeybee, and In Search of the Best Strains of Bees. You could well adapt his methods, even become a Buckfast bee breeder.

Good Luck!
 
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