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    Default Top Bar Hives Now Legal in New Zealand

    Just for interest, there has been much debate in my country over Top Bar Hives because the legislation has been that beehives must have moveable frames for inspection. It was written before Top Bars existed.

    This has been the cause of a lot of argument etc as Top Bar keepers have thus far been operating outside the law, so often don't register their hives or even mix with other beekeepers and so miss out on proper education.

    However the law has now been changed so that bees have to be kept in a hive with moveable frames or COMBS. A good move in my opinion.

    People who allow their bees to make a big tangled mass of comb would still be in breach of the law, which is as it should be because the hive cannot be inspected. But hopefully those people will now feel more free to seek help and knowledge to get their hive re-organised.
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

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    Default Re: Top Bar Hives Now Legal in New Zealand

    That's fantastic news indeed, its great to see the issue has finally been resolved for fellow kiwi's.
    Gary Fawcett
    We blog and Podcast about beekeeping at http://kiwimana.co.nz

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    Default Re: Top Bar Hives Now Legal in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    However the law has now been changed so that bees have to be kept in a hive with moveable frames or COMBS. A good move in my opinion.
    I'm of the opinion that the perceived difference between top bars and frames overemphasized.

    Top bars still require the building of parallel, separated combs.

    The lack a bottom bar and side bar, but functionally the two are identical.

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    Default Re: Top Bar Hives Now Legal in New Zealand

    I would simply have assumed that a top bar IS a type of frame, it's definitely moveable and inspectable.

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    Default Re: Top Bar Hives Now Legal in New Zealand

    Just curious, what was the penalty if one was caught with an illegal TBH?

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    Default Re: Top Bar Hives Now Legal in New Zealand

    Hi,

    It was never tested in court, but I can't imagine much would have happened if it had.

    Thanks...Gary
    Gary Fawcett
    We blog and Podcast about beekeeping at http://kiwimana.co.nz

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    Default Re: Top Bar Hives Now Legal in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by DakarPasFroid View Post
    Just curious, what was the penalty if one was caught with an illegal TBH?
    Having to live in NZ IS the punishment - sorry I could not let that one go past!

    ( NZ is wonderful place - worth visiting when it is getting freezing cold in the USA!)

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    Default Re: Top Bar Hives Now Legal in New Zealand

    Lol.
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

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    Default Re: Top Bar Hives Now Legal in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    Lol.
    I just told my wife about my hanging offence and she said it is about time for us to visit your lovely country again. If they let me in....
    Any excuses like Bee Conferences coming up?

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    Default Re: Top Bar Hives Now Legal in New Zealand

    An excuse? Getting away from the fires?
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

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    Default Re: Top Bar Hives Now Legal in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    An excuse? Getting away from the fires?
    No fires where we are but we need rain. Maybe some coming this week. We live in hope.

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