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  1. #21
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    Default Re: 2.1 syrup

    1000.0 US gallons of 67% syrup is equal to 6814.6 pounds of sugar and 440.0 US gallons of water
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    Default Re: 2.1 syrup

    I mix about 2 to 2 1/2 gallons of very hot tap water with 25# cane sugar, splash of cider vineger, sprinkle of citric acid and electrolytes with vitamins. Mix with drill and paint paddle for about 2 minutes. Syrup goes from very milky to opaque yellowish color. It clears on it's own shortly after. After pouring out into the feeders, there is sometimes a tiny bit of undesolved sugar at the bottom of the bucket, but I just mix that up with the next batch.

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    Default Re: 2.1 syrup

    Well, it sounds like just about everyone has determined your making rock candy not syrup....including the beekeepers wife. I would concur the second boiling is the culprit along with water ratio loss, crystal formation and ....rock candy.

    The best recipe that I have found for a 2:1 ratio, is a 25# bag of sugar, 20lbs of (very hot) water (2.5 gallons) and 1/4 cup of apple cider vinegar to lower the pH closer to that of honey along with 1 tsp ascorbic acid (canning)....the girls are going through a gallon in about 2-3 days right now with the temps in the mid 50's....

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    Default Re: 2.1 syrup

    On this site is a handy little syrup calculator in excel. Top of the page.
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    Luke

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    Default Re: 2.1 syrup

    > I have found for a 2:1 ratio, is a 25# bag of sugar, 20lbs of (very hot) water

    If you want a 2:1 ratio, and are measuring in pounds, I would think that for 25 lbs of sugar, 12.5 lbs of water would be more appropriate. 12.5 lbs of water is very close to 1.5 gallons

    25 lbs sugar / 20 lbs water = 1.25 / 1 or
    1.25 : 1
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    Default Re: 2.1 syrup

    There is an old, old saying in beekeeping: "A pint is a pound the world around!" What it means is that a pound of sugar equals a pint of water. Makes for very easy calculations. For a 1:1 syrup you use your number of pounds dissolved in an equal number of pints of water--10 pounds sugar in 10 pints water, for example. To get 2:1 syrup, you double the number of pounds of sugar to pints of water--20 pounds of sugar to 10 pints of water. Easy, easy to calculate.

    (BTW a cup = 8 oz; a pint = 16 oz (2 cups); 2 pints = 1 quart (32 oz); 4 quarts = 1 gallon (128 oz).)

    Personally when I am making a gallon of 1:1, I use 5 pounds of sugar to 5 pints of water and have enough space left in the gallon container to add 1 cup of my own bee tonic.

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    Rusty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Hills Farm View Post
    There is an old, old saying in beekeeping: "A pint is a pound the world around!" What it means is that a pound of sugar equals a pint of water. Makes for very easy calculations.
    I was going to say those very words! Anyways, I'll second that!
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    >with hard water 2:1 may not be stable

    That's my theory. I have no problems with 5:3, but 2:1 even if I boil the syrup still crystallizes...
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    Default Re: 2.1 syrup

    BeeCurious, on not having to boil, every time you boil you lose volume in vapor, you end up short on the H2O.

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    Default Re: 2.1 syrup

    Not if you measure after you boil.
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    Default Re: 2.1 syrup

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Y View Post
    Not if you measure after you boil.
    So what do you propose, boiling a second pot of water to top off the first?


    That doesn't seem easier than using a lid and not allowing the water to boil...
    BeeCurious
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