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    Simple and cheap. 1/2" hardware cloth. Anyone see any downfalls?


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    Looks good I myself just bought some aluminum angle sold at the Big box stores and local hardware store, cut it to size, drill holes in it and works just like the stainless steel ones you see for sale but cheaper..oops I mean inexpensive
    Think about it....Buy American

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    > Anyone see any downfalls?

    Well, I believe that mice can get through a 1/2" hole.

    From Michael Bush
    Mice.

    Genus Mus. Many species and varieties. Also shrews (Cry ptotis parva). Mostly these are a problem during winter when the bees are clustered and the mice move in. Using #4 hardware cloth (1/4" squares) over the entrances will let the bees in and out and not the mice. Or use only an upper entrance so the mice can't get in.

    http://www.bushfarms.com/beespests.htm
    - and from University of Georgia -
    Mice can get through any hole that will admit the tip of your little finger.

    http://warnell.forestry.uga.edu/serv...php3?docID=420
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    Aaargh... I was afraid that 1/2" might be too big. 1/4" seems so small. So 1/4" squares or 3/8" round holes? Both effective?

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    Thanks Radar.

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    Not sure why you are using a reducer and hardware cloth both. The reducer alone should be enough to keep the mice out unless you are just being extra cautious. I don't reduce the entrance but use hardware cloth for mice. I used 1/4" for years and it works okay but slows the bees down some and drags some pollen off in the spring. Last year I wintered 50+ hives using 1/2" without any problems with mice and it's less restrictive for the bees.

    While 3/8" hardware cloth is uncommon, they do make it. I found some on-line but it required buying a full roll for around $150 + shipping!

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    SWM I read that a mouse can chew through a wooden reducer so that was the reason for the hardware cloth. Maybe it is a Belt and suspenders approach. Thanks for your comments.

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    Spark... what size holes did you drill?

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    One option I read in a previous thread was to buy some inexpensive metal drywall corner bead like this:
    http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?...llow&cId=PDIO1

    Enlarge the holes with a drill to whatever you want
    Graham
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    If a mouse can get it's head through a hole it can get it's whole body through.

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    I use Z angle and drill 3/8 holes in the top and side of the angle across the whole entrance. The Z leg has two small holes for mounting.

    It is like this but modified to go all the way across.

    http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/v...rmspell004.jpg
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    I picked up corner bead from home depot pre drilled and was able to get a guard from each angle.DSC01682a.jpg
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    I usually use 1/4" fence and staple it. Might try the corner bead ideas this year, though.

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    You can quickly alter a standard entrance reducer by driving small nails upright in the opening. I space them at about 5/16 - 3/8" centers. You may have to nip to length with side cutters.

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    Frank and others,
    1/4" hardware cloth doesn't hinder bees at all.... well... drones, but they should be kicked out by now here.

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    Thanks Mr B.

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    Default Re: Workable mouse guard?

    You can enlarge some of the the holes in 1/4" very easily with a nail set or other tapered tool - cartridge casing FE. But a wooden reducer works.
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    Default Re: Workable mouse guard?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rader Sidetrack View Post
    One option I read in a previous thread was to buy some inexpensive metal drywall corner bead like this:
    http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?...llow&cId=PDIO1

    Enlarge the holes with a drill to whatever you want
    Great idea! Nice price!

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    Default Re: Workable mouse guard?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rader Sidetrack View Post
    One option I read in a previous thread was to buy some inexpensive metal drywall corner bead like this:
    http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?...llow&cId=PDIO1

    Enlarge the holes with a drill to whatever you want
    I had not thought of these corner beads...I have been bending flashing and drilling holes....These drywall beads are perfect!
    Thanks for the idea!

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    Default Re: Workable mouse guard?

    I'm heading to HomeDepot right now to grab a piece of corner bead. I'll enlarge the holes to 3/8" and use a shorter unaltered piece to reduce that.

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