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    Hi I am a new beekeeper and would like some help identifying a problem Im having. I checked my hive on Sunday and found uncapped dark pupa and some melted larvae. There was very spotty brood pattern and my population was severely diminished. I think it might be sacbrood and hopefully not foulbrood. Any insight would be helpful. 002.jpg003.jpg004.jpg005.jpg011.jpg012.jpg

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    there are easy tests you can do to help you find out if it's afb.
    matchstick test seems easiest.
    plenty of information about it if you google it.

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    Yolanda
    Are there any uncharacteristic odors associated with the hive?
    People don't like it when you make them think. People like it when you make them think they are thinking

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    There are only a couple of open cells with developing larva - It is hard to diagnose over the internet yet I do not see the characteristic sac around the larva that would indicate sac brood. Most of the cells have only one egg centered at the bottom of the cell which to me indicates that the eggs were laid by a queen. In the last picture it looks like there is one cell with two eggs - I'm not sure what to make of that. That can be a sign of a new queen just getting started with her laying. The capped brood (what little there is) looks to be normal worker brood and is from outward appearance healthy.

    In picture #4 - the one with pollen - there are a few cells of what looks to be developing larvae in the process of melting down - but I can't see the cells clearly. One looks like it may have a mite or something in it.

    I think you need to get someone to look at this hive - It looks to me to be in the last stages of dieing out and I would not invest any money in the hive (like purchasing a new queen) without knowing with certainty what health issues your bees are dealing with.

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    #1 at the very bottom a little to the right, possible sac brood. #2 just below center, probably the same ones as in #1 and possible sac brood. #3 to the right of center another possible sac brood. It's easier to tell for sure in person...

    I never used to see any sac brood around. Just pictures in the books. I started seeing it in other peoples hives right after Varroa got bad. It's a viral disease and is probably spread by the Varroa.
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    No there wasn't any odor.

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    How's the population, and stores look low.

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    I certainly can't say for sure, but it looks like the final stage of severe mite infestation to me. Even if you still have a queen, what remains of the hive is too far gone to recover any time soon. Sorry. But don't give up.

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