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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Hi There! I'm moments away from ordering a complete hive kit! Any Advice?

    JW - Can you get fenceboards wider than 6 inches (5 1/2)? That is an AWESOME price per super.

  2. #22
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    Default Re: Hi There! I'm moments away from ordering a complete hive kit! Any Advice?

    The things about kits (that I find the worst) is that they commonly give you just one brood box (deep or medium) and maybe a super. Some of them are just a single brood box - that's not a complete hive.

    For wooden ware you will need a bottom board, a minimum of 3 medium boxes, with a total of 30 frames with your choice of foundation, and an inner and outer cover. You won't make it half way into the summer w/o 3 boxes, or you will find yourself paying overnight shipping for another super when you find your hive if full of bees and honey.

    You will need at the very least lest a vail, or a bee jacket, or full bee suit (depending on how comfortable you think you will be). You will need a smoker, but you don't need smoker fuel.

    Things you don't need:

    landing board - serves no use

    entrance feeder (search "entrance feeder and robbing")

    Gloves supplied with the kit. If you want to use gloves (which I recommend) go to Home Depot and you can buy them much cheaper than a bee catalog.

    Bee brush - not really needed; however, they are cheap and can work.
    Honey Badger Don't Care ಠ_ಠ ~=[,,_,,]:3

  3. #23
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    Default Re: Hi There! I'm moments away from ordering a complete hive kit! Any Advice?

    marsh Master,
    Perhaps it's a west coast lumber item. We have Incense Cedar and Redwood fence boards at 1x8 nominal. Work great for mediums. You wait for the loss-leader sale and buy a stack (and pick the boards for solid grain). The cedar is 5/8 net, and the redwood is 11/16th net. If the price is right the redwood is worth every penny, but you can make the cedar work.

    We used to be able to get 1x12 rough cedar and redwood fence boards. Haven't seen those since the lumber market collapsed in 2008, keep hoping for their return.

  4. #24
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    Default Re: Hi There! I'm moments away from ordering a complete hive kit! Any Advice?

    JWChesnut - REDWOOD - yikes, I might bury someone to get my hands on that. Have not seen that stuff in this area since I was a kid. Stuff is great for boats. Will look around for some wide cedar fence boards.


    Sorry Jalek and Barry = not trying to hijack the thread.

  5. #25
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    Default Re: Hi There! I'm moments away from ordering a complete hive kit! Any Advice?

    Not a problem at all!

  6. #26
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    Default Re: Hi There! I'm moments away from ordering a complete hive kit! Any Advice?

    2nd year beek here and I didn't buy any kits, I researched what I wanted. Here's a good set of 1st year videos for a beek's 1st year. I ended up mimicking his setup cuz it made sense. I personally don't like mann lake wood as I find their wood really hard to nail together where as Kelley Bees is almost effortless.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/epawlus77/videos

  7. #27
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    Default Re: Hi There! I'm moments away from ordering a complete hive kit! Any Advice?

    I am in the same boat and I am currently saving up to get into beekeeping. Its not cheap and I tried looking for used equipment and there is just nothing out there to purchase. I have spent since Jan 2013 reading and researching beekeeping and will be starting in the Spring of 2014. I have a list wish started at Mann Lake and its up to about $750 in equipment and I still have some items to add.

  8. #28
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    Default Re: Hi There! I'm moments away from ordering a complete hive kit! Any Advice?

    You need to PM a guy named Acebird. He knows how to keep bees as a hobbiest for less than a dime.
    Honey Badger Don't Care ಠ_ಠ ~=[,,_,,]:3

  9. #29
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    Default Re: Hi There! I'm moments away from ordering a complete hive kit! Any Advice?

    I am not promoting one type of hives over another - I have both Lang style hives and Top Bar hives. But if spending minimal cash is a key consideration (and it usually is for me), then a Top Bar (TBH) hive can be done very inexpensively. See Michael Bush's TBH page:

    http://www.bushfarms.com/beestopbarhives.htm

    You may need to buy bees, a smoker, and a veil, and some wood. If you are lucky, you might even trap a swarm. But long sleeved white sweatshirt from a thrift store will substitute for a jacket, TBH "hive tools" can be scrounged or also found at the thrift store.

    I started with TBHs partly because I couldn't make sense of all the different Lang hive options to choose from. As my first winter with bees approached, (after reading Beesource for 12 months ) I determined what Lang choices I was comfortable with, and decided to build all my Lang equipment.

    No you can't "get into beekeeping without spending one thin dime", but if you have time and some tools, it can be done on an affordable budget.
    Graham
    USDA Zone 7A Elevation 1400 ft

  10. #30
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    Default Re: Hi There! I'm moments away from ordering a complete hive kit! Any Advice?

    One of the things you need to decide is what your philosophy of beekeeping is and how that relates to your view of the world and your philosophy of life:
    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesphilosophy.htm

    You also need to know you have a lot of choices for equipment and some of them may impact your life, such as boxes you can lift when full of honey as opposed to boxes you can't.
    http://www.bushfarms.com/beeseightframemedium.htm

    And having all the same size frames
    http://www.bushfarms.com/beeslazy.htm#uniformframesize

    Other choices.
    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesoptions.htm

    Some advice for beginners.
    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesnewbees.htm

    Some background on bees.
    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesbasics.htm

    Terminology.
    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesterms.htm

    Acronyms.
    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesglossary.htm
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

  11. #31
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    Default Re: Hi There! I'm moments away from ordering a complete hive kit! Any Advice?

    I am going to add my $.02 here. I started 3 years ago and bought all 8 frame mediums. There is less space in 8 frame mediums than other options you have but the tradeoff is they are lighter. This year I bought some 8 frame deeps and will use those for the bottom brood boxes. No lifting, no worry about lugging heavy boxes full of honey. I found that in 2 hives the queen moved up into the 4th medium and turned that into a brood chamber. I am hoping the addition of one deep on the very bottom of each hive will be just enough to keep 3 total brood chambers, without the use of a queen excluder. Some things to think about.

  12. #32
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    Default Re: Hi There! I'm moments away from ordering a complete hive kit! Any Advice?

    I don't have time to reply in detail right now. But if you like facebook, I have an Agricultural page that has lots of photos about bees, equipment and hive finishes.

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mille...56954971040510

    Just scroll down for lots of info.

  13. #33
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    Default Re: Hi There! I'm moments away from ordering a complete hive kit! Any Advice?

    Bees and beehive (Galveston)
    Honey bees made a nest between the walls of my house. They are not aggressive, even mellow . They never bit us, even when we mow the grass right next the them. The challenge is to get them out. If you can do it ,they are yours. At first I though I'd keep them, so I bought a nice double bee hive with all the features,hoping that they will move in there. But they like my house better, so they stay in. If you want these bees, we must open outer wall ( which lined with vinyl siding, so it will be not as difficult, as demolishing brick wall, for example), collect the honey, and have the bees.
    Sounds sweet, doesn't it
    So, if you interested, please give me a call, 281 508 0860 is my number. Thanks!
    Location: Galveston
    it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
    Posting ID: 4047107693 Posted: 2013-09-04, 11:05PM CDT email to a friend

    The Craigslist listing above (copy and paste from CL) is a sample of one way to get bees and equipment locally, try it.
    Julysun elevation 23 feet. 4 Hives, 2 years.

  14. #34
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    Default Re: Hi There! I'm moments away from ordering a complete hive kit! Any Advice?

    Quote Originally Posted by JWChesnut View Post
    I ask my students to get 3 hives. One hive is at risk for many disasters, rolling the queen chief among those, and a second "donor" hive will help both survive.
    Agreed, you should start with at least 2 hives. I started with 1, wish I had gone for two from the get go. There's just a lot of problems and potential complications that will have you worried with one hive that will just make you shrug and move some stuff around with two.
    Beekeeper since 2013. Read my bee blog at:
    http://harrisonbayhoney.blogspot.com

  15. #35
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    Default Re: Hi There! I'm moments away from ordering a complete hive kit! Any Advice?

    (snark) If you start now, you'll have time before spring swarm season to develop an obnoxious know-it-all online persona based on the absolutist dogma, rumors and quasi-religious innuendo you gleaned from bee-keeping message boards which is thick with such. (/snark)[/QUOTE]

    Wow...that's some deep stuff there! There's at least three separate threads and weeks worth of conversation in that single sentence. I'll have to keep my eye out for you JWChesnut!

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