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    Default Maine Bee keep hive regression in process. Should I medicate this fall?

    Hello

    I am in the process of regressing my colonies for foundation-less bee keeping.. All my bees seem very hardy and were splits from what appears to bee a strong locally adapted hive I have had for about 3 years. These original bees seem to be resistant, so I began to make splits in the spring. All split seem very strong and I am regressing them to pull foundation-less comb and YAY they are doing this well. The original hive is not regressed on any frames. Should I treat this fall? If so what "soft" chemicals would you recommend.

    Secondarily I have a screened bottom board on only one colony. Can you leave the screen exposed all winter? and can we generally use SBB in Maine as it is such a cold winter climate.. All advice appreciated as usual!!

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    Default Re: Maine Bee keep hive regression in process. Should I medicate this fall?

    You cannot determine if you need to treat by looking at how well your bees are doing now. You need to get a mite count. A 24 hour natural drop count or a powder sugar roll count will tell you if you need to treat.(look up threashold) There is a lot of disagreement on what "soft" chemicals are. When I treat I use oxalic acid. Some say it is a soft treatment, some not. I use it because it works very well, and mites cannot development resistance to it.

    I recall this being discussed in the past. I seem to remember most northern beekers close their SBB for the winter. Try a search.

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    Default Re: Maine Bee keep hive regression in process. Should I medicate this fall?

    I would not go with a SBB for overwintering. Some will tell you that you can. however I find than in the northern latitudes above the 40th parallel the bees burn lots of stores trying to heat the cluster. Vent the top and put a solid bottom board under the SBB.

    As far as the mites I use 10 on a sugar roll, and 30 on a 48 hour natural drop as my threshold

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    Default Re: Maine Bee keep hive regression in process. Should I medicate this fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Walliebee View Post
    You cannot determine if you need to treat by looking at how well your bees are doing now. You need to get a mite count. A 24 hour natural drop count or a powder sugar roll count will tell you if you need to treat.(look up threashold) There is a lot of disagreement on what "soft" chemicals are. When I treat I use oxalic acid. Some say it is a soft treatment, some not. I use it because it works very well, and mites cannot development resistance to it.

    I recall this being discussed in the past. I seem to remember most northern beekers close their SBB for the winter. Try a search.

    Thanks Walliebee. I am intending to do a mite count and do understand if the threshold indicates to medicate. My question is specific though to whether colonies in regression process to foundation-less frames should be treated routinely until next year when I can complete the regression process. This may mean I would medicate regardless of low mite counts. I did see on Michael Bush's site that he did medicate while in this regression process. Also I know very little about oxalic acid. Could you forward me information on application procedures?

    Thanks
    Marcy

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    Default Re: Maine Bee keep hive regression in process. Should I medicate this fall?

    I would let it ride, but that's just me. Seems like it would be counter productive to the process and you will throw things off balance, pH, microbiological population, even with so called soft treatments.
    Solomon Parker, Parker Farms, ParkerFarms.biz
    11 Years Treatment-Free, ~25 Colony Baseline

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    Default Re: Maine Bee keep hive regression in process. Should I medicate this fall?

    As far as screened bottom boards, I suggest you check out the Bee Informed National Survey. http://beeinformed.org/wp-content/up...-board-use.pdf

    The data available shows no significant difference.
    Solomon Parker, Parker Farms, ParkerFarms.biz
    11 Years Treatment-Free, ~25 Colony Baseline

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    Default Re: Maine Bee keep hive regression in process. Should I medicate this fall?

    Using a SBB successfully will depend on how far you are from the coast. Fog = moisture & moisture and bees are not a good combination. If you are determined to pursue OA as a treatment check with Tony Jadczak on how it should be applied. I recall he had information on how OA is used in Australia. OA has not been approved as a miticide in the United States. That may or may not be important to you.

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    Default Re: Maine Bee keep hive regression in process. Should I medicate this fall?

    Thank you as it is always good to look at the data.

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