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    Default easy wax rendering AND filtering

    Finally I had a moment of clarity... the deep fryer basket coincidentally fits a mesh bag! It's easy enough to boil used comb in the basket, then when it's all melted just lift out the basket, pour boiling water through it to rinse, and I get a cooled, very clean cap of wax for final rendering. Saves a lot of time cleaning the wax I get from cutouts... all the cocoons, debris and whatnot goes right into the compost or smoker-fuel pile.

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    Default Re: easy wax rendering AND filtering

    Very nice idea!

    Thanks for sharing it with us.
    Joe and Heidi S.

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    Default Re: easy wax rendering AND filtering

    Are you just letting the wax filter through into the pot?

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    Default Re: easy wax rendering AND filtering

    Well it all kind of liquefies together in the boil, but yes once it's all melted and the basket removed the wax floats to the top of the big kettle and solidifies.
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    Default Re: easy wax rendering AND filtering

    Please be really careful with that set up. Beeswax flames out at a low temp (120 F, I think) and could catch fire easily near the propane flame. Don't stand too close, use low and slow heat, have a BIG fire extinguisher nearby, but no kids nearby, etc. etc. etc. Just like frying turkeys.

    Otherwise,

    I LIKE this idea!

    Summer

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    Default Re: easy wax rendering AND filtering

    Fortunately beeswax doesn't even melt until 140F, and flashes at WAY past the 203 that water boils at here (which is why everybody uses double-boilers for rendering; it's a safety thing). Thanks for the concern though!
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    Default Re: easy wax rendering AND filtering

    you must have some really neat water cause mine boils at 212

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    Default Re: easy wax rendering AND filtering

    Quote Originally Posted by slickbrightspear View Post
    you must have some really neat water cause mine boils at 212
    Water boils at 212 at sea level, it boils at lower temperatures at higher elevations. Lower air pressure at higher elevations makes it easier for the bubbles to form and escape.

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    Default Re: easy wax rendering AND filtering

    so I am wrong sorry

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    Default Re: easy wax rendering AND filtering

    something tells me the turkey will be fryed in a diferent pot from now on.

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    Default Re: easy wax rendering AND filtering

    Keybeeper has it. When you've spent as many countless hundreds of hours as I have sitting over kettles waiting for the second the boil starts, you know your temps . I do have neat water though... I backpack to the glacier near my home where the water that comes from my tap melted off of a couple days before.

    And yes it takes an ungodly amount of scrubbing to reclaim a wax pot. Good thing I have about 6 15-gallon kettles laying around!
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    Default Re: easy wax rendering AND filtering

    Do you have any more pictures that show the rest of the process (wax floating to the top and how you deal with all that). I've never rendered wax before, thats why I ask.

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    Default Re: easy wax rendering AND filtering

    Sorry, I don't but it forms a cap (this time it was about a half-inch thick), kind of irregular from cooling more quickly on the margins. Break that up into pieces for storage until you can do final rendering on them and you're in the wax business.
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    Default Re: easy wax rendering AND filtering

    I used to live in Laramie, WY at 7200 feet. Water boiled at 198 F. You couldn't cook dried beans so they weren't hard without a pressure cooker...
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    Default Re: easy wax rendering AND filtering

    did ya soke them over nite it helps alot.

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    Default Re: easy wax rendering AND filtering

    Back to the wax tho, How do you go about that "final rendering" of which you speak? I am real new at this and am trying to learn everything I can.

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    I melt it in a double boiler and filter through old t-shirts or sweatshirts (or paper towels lacking those). The result, poured into block molds or whatever form is pure and ready to use for whatever you want.

    Typically I'll have a double boiler going to melt the chunks of wax in, then when liquified it gets poured into another pitcher that has the filter cloth clothespinned to a funnel sitting in it. That setup goes into the oven at 150F. That way whatever final bits of dust and other draff I'm filtering out don't solidify in the funnel, and so the wax in the filter stays liquid and melts through while I'm liquefying the next pitcher of chunks. When the filtered pitcher gets full I just pour into molds, tubs or whatever SWMBO won't kill me for co-opting to the bee cause .

    What does the soaking overnight do?
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    Default Re: easy wax rendering AND filtering

    soaking dry beans rehydrates them so they cook faster...

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    Oh, the BEANS. Thought you meant comb .
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    >did ya soke them over nite it helps alot

    Of course. But the point is that water boils at 198 F at 7200 feet...
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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