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    Default Fondant

    My nuc isn't ready for the winter. I have been feeding sugar syrup but the nuc is not too heavy. Can I just put in fondant as it gets colder?

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    Default Re: Fondant

    You can, but the bees will probably have to go farther to get to it than they will to collect syrup from a cell near them when they cluster this winter.

    I'd keep feeding syrup, and if they are not up to weight when it gets too cold for syrup, then I'd resort to fondant or a hard sugar candy board.

    There's a reason those are suggested as emergency feeding practices.
    They're no substitute for adequate stores.

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    Default Re: Fondant

    Quote Originally Posted by Beregondo View Post
    I'd keep feeding syrup, and if they are not up to weight when it gets too cold for syrup,

    I am wondering, at what temperture is considered to cold for syrup?

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    Default Re: Fondant

    A minimum syrup temperature of 50 degrees is commonly cited in order for bees to be interested.
    Graham
    USDA Zone 7A Elevation 1400 ft

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    Default Re: Fondant

    Mind, that's syrup temp, not air temp.
    It's warmer inside the hive (and any empty super you surround your feed with) than out.

    IF:

    There is no nectar flow
    It's started getting cold for more than one night every once in a while
    And
    Your bees aren't taking syrup

    THEN
    It's too cold for your bees where you live to take syrup.

    Fifty degrees is a very useful rule of thumb, but bee colonies, like people, are individual and vary in behavior a bit from one to the next.

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    Default Re: Fondant

    JimmyA: if your nuc is light now the odds are steep against survival
    Consider combining
    If you are adament about keeping this nuc ( or just stubborn like me ) if you have another hive consider putting two queen excluders sepperated by screen wire on top of a good hive and put the nuc over that in a full box
    The warmth from the lower hive will help keep them alive this winter
    I used a "follower board" made of cardboard and filled the open space with newspaper.
    But I haven't done this since the arrival of SHB so...
    Either way its a gamble
    Good Luck, Mike
    "Wine is a constant proof that God loves us and loves to see us happy" Ben Franklin

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    Default Re: Fondant

    I just have two nucs. They are doing well. I have them both on constant feed.

    JimmyA

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