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    Default Queen bee staying on same frame

    My queen bee is fine, laying pattern is fine, etc... She stays on one frame. I believe she has laid some on the other side of the frame. Why doesn't she go to other frames to lay eggs and expand the colony quicker?

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    Default Re: Queen bee staying on same frame

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyA View Post
    My queen bee is fine, laying pattern is fine, etc... She stays on one frame. I believe she has laid some on the other side of the frame. Why doesn't she go to other frames to lay eggs and expand the colony quicker?
    I wish mine would stay on one frame. It sure would make it easy to find her. Really though, she is the queen, she will do what she wants. If she needs more laying room she will move to it. I think you are probably worrying to much.

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    Default Re: Queen bee staying on same frame

    Hard to say. Perhaps she does not feel she has the population to adequately cover more brood than what she has laid? Is the surrounding comb drawn or foundation, and if drawn, how are the bees using it?

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    Default Re: Queen bee staying on same frame

    The frames next to the brood frame are almost completely drawn and the bees are filling those frames with sugar-water and pollen. The outside frames are not drawn. This is a nuc. What I am thinking is the queen won't pass the sugar-water so to keep the brood nest together. So in this hive, for now, looks like the brood nest will be just one frame. Thoughts? And thank you!

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    Default Re: Queen bee staying on same frame

    if you have some empty drawn frame put it it next to the frame with brood. If not put an empty frame in. Queens are hesitant to cross a honey barrier.

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    Default Re: Queen bee staying on same frame

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Dewey View Post
    Hard to say. Perhaps she does not feel she has the population to adequately cover more brood than what she has laid? Is the surrounding comb drawn or foundation, and if drawn, how are the bees using it?
    I found my thoughts right here, already typed out.

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    Default Re: Queen bee staying on same frame

    I don't think it is the queen's decision. The workers are not preparing cells for her so why are they doing that?
    Brian Cardinal
    Zone 5a, Practicing non-intervention beekeeping

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    Default Re: Queen bee staying on same frame

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyA View Post
    Why doesn't she go to other frames to lay eggs and expand the colony quicker?
    Staying far away from the Checkmite?
    Regards, Barry

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    Default Re: Queen bee staying on same frame

    > I don't think it is the queen's decision. The workers are not preparing cells for her ...

    Sometimes I give Ace static when he posts some of his unsupported personal theories. But in this case Ace is correct.

    From a popular Dummies beekeeping book:
    The queen lays a single egg in each cell that has been cleaned and prepared by the workers to raise new brood. The cell must be spotless, or she moves on to another one.

    More here:
    http://www.dummies.com/how-to/conten...honey-bee.html
    -- Victor Hugo -- "Common sense is in spite of, not the result of, education.

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    Default Re: Queen bee staying on same frame

    On the frames next to the brood frame, the bees are filling that with syrup so no room for eggs there.

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    Default Re: Queen bee staying on same frame

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Staying far away from the Checkmite?
    I just have a small amount in a beetle barn on the bottom screen. I don't hang any of those strips in the hive.

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    Default Re: Queen bee staying on same frame

    How much pollen are they bringing in, and how much is in the hive?

    No pollen, no eggs as they don't have the resources to feed brood, same as if there is no nectar. You are feeding syrup, maybe you need to feed supplement too.

    That said, sometimes you get a colony that just doesn't want to expand much, and the only cure is a new queen. Might be tough this time of year, though.

    Peter

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    Default Re: Queen bee staying on same frame

    A decision to rear more brood requires more workers to feed the brood and care for the brood and forage food for the brood. This is a decision made by the workers and is not undertaken lightly.
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    Default Re: Queen bee staying on same frame

    How do you supplement feed? They are on sugar syrup. I have some fondant and pollen. Would that help? And if so how do I feed?

    They have brood, are bringing in lots of pollen, have eggs and larvae.

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    Default Re: Queen bee staying on same frame

    They still have to have nurse bees to feed it and house bees to store the syrup. They can only do so much. They are also responding to the time of year.
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    Default Re: Queen bee staying on same frame

    Just put fondant and pollen on the top bars?

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    Default Re: Queen bee staying on same frame

    I put some on the top bars and they love it! Really going to town now!

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    Default Re: Queen bee staying on same frame

    The hive I put fondant and pollen in is really going fast today. The bees' pollen sacs are full and they are coming in almost one after another with new pollen. In fact, if there were a speed limit, they would be getting tickets! I may try that in my other hive.
    Last edited by JimmyA; 08-25-2013 at 09:43 AM.

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    Default Re: Queen bee staying on same frame

    They slowed down in the afternoon. I noticed any yellow jackets that get in the hive are taken out "under-taker" style by the bees.

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