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  1. #1
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    Default Any ideas why they died??

    I have three hives on a raised stand to with screen bottom boards one without. I went out this morning and found hundreds of dead and dying bees under the two hives with screen bottom boards. Daytime temperatures have been in the 90s and nighttime lows around 55.

    Could the bees cluster underneath the screen board and would a temperature in the 55 range kill them? I don't know how to post pictures so here's the links to photo bucket:
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    the bees are directly under the hives and the end hive definitely had the most dead.

    We live 2 1/2 miles from the paved road lots of trees and brush. Two small grape vineyards and flight range the closest of which is organic and they tell me they do not use pesticides. Most of the Buckeye is totally dried up and Brown and the only major flow is tar weed that we have right now. We have about an acre of garden with no pesticides. Flowering plants include sunflower, squash, melons, bell pepper, Wolf berry, sunchokes, garlic chives, cat mint and a medium-size mimosa tree.

    No medications have been applied to the hives with the exception of powdered sugar dusting three days ago and 1 quart one-to-one syrup. 90% of all hive parts are new except five frames old comb.

    End hive is hive number one and a consists of; two 10 frame deep brood boxes, one medium super, inner cover in the garden top. Next hive is hive number two and consist of; two 10 frame deep brood boxes, two medium super's, inner cover and telescoping top. Final hive is hive number three which is a cut out from August 10 and it consist of; one 8 frame deep brood box, one eight frame medium super, inner cover and telescoping top. Hives one and two have 10 frame screen bottom boards 1 quart front feeders and fully opened bottom entrances. Hive Three has a solid bottom board with an entrance reducer and a 1 quart feeder.

    August 13 I took two deep frames of open brood from hive number two and one frame of honey from hive number two to boost hive number three the cut out.

    Any ideas or questions would be greatly appreciated!!!!

  2. #2
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    Default Re: Any ideas why they died??

    I would suspect robbing.

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    Default Re: Any ideas why they died??

    Why was the queen outside of the hive?

  4. #4
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    Default Re: Any ideas why they died??

    The queen pic was from three months ago, I think it was her nuptial flight and she was from hive number two.

    JRG13, thanks for the idea but the dead bees are under the hive not in front of the hive. I just open the hive up and took a peek great stores and great brood pattern.
    Last edited by nobull56; 08-16-2013 at 08:22 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Default Re: Any ideas why they died??

    Here's three more photos as you can see in two of them bees cluster on the underside of the screen.

    http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/No...tml?sort=3&o=0
    http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/No...tml?sort=3&o=1
    http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/No...tml?sort=3&o=2

    everything seemed peaceful and happy in the hive and the last photo is frame number two of the top deep brood box. I didn't take pictures of the medium super but they are drawing comb on all 10 frames.

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    Default Re: Any ideas why they died??

    So, is the feeder on the outside empty or are you feeding?? Doesn't look like many bees by the screened entrance. If your feeding I'd vote robbing. But looks like classic pesticide kill to me..

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    Default Re: Any ideas why they died??

    Ok, took all outside feeders off Sunday & put in entrance reducers on all hives.

    so about 2 pm I go out to the yard & there are about three pounds of bees in a swarm on the ground twelve feet from hive #2.

    shoved them in a nuc-box with frames & more bees are coming! It's now 4pm, I just found a queen outside the nuc & ran her inside.

    This is crazy!! What's going on?? Are my hives too full? Are wild bees invading us??
    Last edited by nobull56; 08-20-2013 at 05:08 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Default Re: Any ideas why they died??

    Here's an update.

    As for the die off, what I think is this hive (#1 hive) is crowded and because it's so hot in the day the bees bearded under the bottom screen. I think it got a little cold and they could not cluster up in the hive because they were outside the bottom board screen. The reason I think this is because all them little bee bodies were gone by the time I got home from work. I now don't think they were dead I think they were chilled! Later in the day they got warm woke up and went in the hive, told everybody we need to start making a whole bunch of swarms and teach this guy something about bees!!!!

    I'm breaking down both the big hives today to see what's going on and will try to post something this evening.

    Thanks for the ideas

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