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    Default Thoughts on a Fall Flow in the Northeast??

    So what are you thinking? What do you see?
    I've got a fair amount of Joe Pye weed that's in full bloom now, Japanese Knotweed is just starting to flower, fair amount of Goldenrod is close too. Also seeing Seedum about to bloom.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on a Fall Flow in the Northeast??

    Starting to smell goldenrod. No aster blooming yet. Some loosestrife blooming but no flow. Beetles did their job.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on a Fall Flow in the Northeast??

    I am thinking PLEASE LET IT BE A GOOD FLOW!

    I currently have 25 hives and nucs and my honey crop this year has been minimal at best.

    I just noticed bees working the GR that is in flower. Should be a week or so before they really pop.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on a Fall Flow in the Northeast??

    Haven't had a flow since Bass Wood even though the Napp weed has been blooming since?? plenty of pollen though, golden rod is producing pollen, saw my firs asters blooming yesterday.
    mike syracuse ny
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    Default Re: Thoughts on a Fall Flow in the Northeast??

    Plenty of goldenrod in bloom. White Aster next to my building. Purple Loostrife here and there. Knapweed here and there. Bees robby when taking off honey.
    Mark Berninghausen #youmatter

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    Default Re: Thoughts on a Fall Flow in the Northeast??

    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    Bees robby when taking off honey.
    Did that mean you couldn't set supers on their end and have the bees fly back to the hive or do you do that later in the season?
    Brian Cardinal
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    Default Re: Thoughts on a Fall Flow in the Northeast??

    Using fume boards this year.
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    Default Re: Thoughts on a Fall Flow in the Northeast??

    Are they getting honey or pollen or both from purple loosestrife? Amazing such a highly invasive plant is helpful!

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    Default Re: Thoughts on a Fall Flow in the Northeast??

    It's been around for a hundred years. Is it still an invasive?
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    Default Re: Thoughts on a Fall Flow in the Northeast??

    Yes, it's still invasive.
    In a hundred years, no one has been able to to teach those darn plants to stop invading.
    And lets not get into the small c̶e̶l̶l̶ pond as a control technique debate!

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    Default Re: Thoughts on a Fall Flow in the Northeast??

    Quote Originally Posted by natureboy68 View Post
    Are they getting honey or pollen or both from purple loosestrife? Amazing such a highly invasive plant is helpful!
    Probably both. Why amazing? It has been known as a nectar producer for a looonngg time.
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    Default Re: Thoughts on a Fall Flow in the Northeast??

    Quote Originally Posted by natureboy68 View Post
    Amazing such a highly invasive plant is helpful!
    Why so amazing? The plant came from Europe and our European bees grew up with it.

    Loosestrife isn't the only invasive that has become a nectar source. Think Honeysuckle, Buckthorn, Clover, Spotted Knapweed, Starthistle, and many others.

    And the Gov't talks about saving the bees, but at the same time is trying to destroy the very plants that help the bees.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on a Fall Flow in the Northeast??

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Palmer View Post
    And the Gov't talks about saving the bees, but at the same time is trying to destroy the very plants that help the bees.
    The knapweed is taking over the goldenrods range down here, goldenrod produces far more honey than knapweed. They will probable try to control it after the last shred of goldenrod is gone.
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    Default Re: Thoughts on a Fall Flow in the Northeast??

    We have the same thing here with Brazillian Pepper and Melaluca--the gov working on erradicating and they are both strong nectar flows. Melaluca is said to have medicinal properties. Brazillian our main fall flow.
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    Default Re: Thoughts on a Fall Flow in the Northeast??

    Why doesn't anyone try to control invasive homo sapiens?
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    Default Re: Thoughts on a Fall Flow in the Northeast??

    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    Why doesn't anyone try to control invasive homo sapiens?
    We wouldn't want to offend anyone, they are the future democratic voters.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on a Fall Flow in the Northeast??

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Palmer View Post
    Starting to smell goldenrod. No aster blooming yet. Some loosestrife blooming but no flow. Beetles did their job.
    Near my house I have several ditches full of loosestrife and it is covered with smaller bumblebees but not one honey bee this year. Last year the bees were all over it.
    And boy is it invasive it has spread like crazy down the ditches in the last few yrs. I need to order seeds and help it along.
    I to am in a nectar dearth.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on a Fall Flow in the Northeast??

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Davis View Post
    We wouldn't want to offend anyone, they are the future democratic voters.
    Ha,ha. Problem for some started long ago. They came w/ the bees. We came w/ the bees.

    I think that the idea of invasiveness should be eradicated. We waste too much time and money trying to hold back natural processes.
    Mark Berninghausen #youmatter

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    Default Re: Thoughts on a Fall Flow in the Northeast??

    The knotweed near me is invasive...I see in waterbury they go around and spray it. I however love to see it. Also teatree is invasive in many parts and also a great nectar producer.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on a Fall Flow in the Northeast??

    In SW CT Plenty of Goldenrod-and plenty of competition for it here. Crazy amount of bumble bees, hornets/other vespids also ruffling thru the 'rod side by side with honeybees. Milk thistle, buddelia, sunflowers, even bush/leaf sap flow here...Agree: In NE, Jap Beetles wrecked Spring flowers, seemingly planting themselves in the center of every flower--ehhhhchh. Even taught my dog a new trick -to "get the bug"(Jap beetle). Sigh. Why don't birds eat those things? They could stuff themselves full!

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