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  1. #1
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    Default Need help identifying a bee

    Hello. First year beekeeper here. I have a hive of Italian bees (I think - that's what I was told) but I'm seeing a different bee mixed in with mine. While mine are more yellow stripped and blunt shaped this bee is darker and it's tale end is black. It's also shaped almost wasp-like with a very narrow abdomen. They haven't been aggressive and ignore me around the feeder. My honeybees will check them out but they don't bother each other. You can see both bees in the attached picture. Mine is the yellowish one at the top and the other bee is the dark one at the bottom. Can someone tell me what kind of bee that is?
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  2. #2
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    Default Re: Need help identifying a bee

    It's one of urs probably, just lost most of it's hair somewhere so it looks different.

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    Default Re: Need help identifying a bee

    Unless your queen was artificial inseminated with pure Italian drones sperm I would side you have a mixed bred hive.

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    Default Re: Need help identifying a bee

    As far as I can tell they're not in the hive. I meant to say that these different looking bees have shown up on the bee feeder. We're in the midst of summer and there's not much flowering going on so I just started feeding my bees sugar water until the fall flowering starts. So far they're all getting along ok even though they're competing for their food.

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    Default Re: Need help identifying a bee

    Looks like a wet bee to me.
    Probably, got wet when you where refilling feeder.

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    Default Re: Need help identifying a bee

    I have had some just like that inside one of my hives. It was a hive that swarmed and I first saw two of these inside after the swarm cells were being torn down. I first thought that it was virgin queens. They are a tad smaller than my workers. Some of the workers pay them no attention and others are just aggressive enough to run them off, but not really attack them. If i can get a pic uploaded...image.jpgimage.jpg

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    Default Re: Need help identifying a bee

    I would say probably just old worn out workers from your hive...maybe not different bees at all.

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    Default Re: Need help identifying a bee

    I sent a picture to the North Carolina State University Apiculturist and he thinks that it's Chronic Bee Paralysis Virus (CBPV).
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    Default Re: Need help identifying a bee

    Had to look that one up:

    http://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index....aralysis_Virus

    "Symptoms of CBPV include severe trembling of the wings and body, crawling on the ground, hairlessness, darker or shinier appearance, death, etc."

    I have some bees that look just like that. I just thought they were some different strain. I think they look pretty cool.
    Try it. What could happen?

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    Default Re: Need help identifying a bee

    I haven't seen the trembling or crawling on the ground. I have seen the hairlessness, darker appearance, and some dead ones around the feeder. They're no more aggressive than the other bees but they just make me more cautious because they look like wasps.

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    Default Re: Need help identifying a bee

    Is there just one set of wings? never mind, I see two.
    Last edited by berkshire bee; 08-12-2013 at 06:45 PM. Reason: I was wrong

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    Default Re: Need help identifying a bee

    definitely CBPV I lost 2 hives to it this year.. nothing you can do as far as my internet research found
    Honeydew

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    Default Re: Need help identifying a bee

    Do you have any idea what causes the virus or how it is contracted? I have some darker bees too and some crawling on the ground which I thought might be v. mite problems. I am currently treating with APIGUARD to see if that makes a difference.

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    Default Re: Need help identifying a bee

    Quote Originally Posted by Murdock View Post
    Do you have any idea what causes the virus or how it is contracted? I have some darker bees too and some crawling on the ground which I thought might be v. mite problems. I am currently treating with APIGUARD to see if that makes a difference.
    Apiguard will do nothing for it, there are some write ups on the internet about it mostly from the UK. My hive had hundreds of shivering bees a day in front of it and walking around lost on the ground until the hive collapsed from it , some of the reads say re-queening may help. good luck with it
    Honeydew

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    Default Re: Need help identifying a bee

    Had a hive with the hairless bees and shaking about two months ago. Mite check met treatment threshold. treated for V. mite (Apiguard) and now they are doing good. V mite knocked them down and then the palsy/hairless problems surfaced. Looks like the Mite was the root cause for our hive. sometimes you have to treat for the cause not the effect.

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