"And, I contend that in practically every failure varroa are part of the equation.
If you haven’t taken an objective measurement….you don’t know."

This ranks right up there with thinking that one can't know if he has a mite problem if he is not doing mite counts.

There are other objective measures than mite counts t to determine if one has a mite problem.

Productive hive counts are an example of such objective measures.

I've been keeping hives treatment free for years now. Not many years, but years.

The hives are consistently productive and have a higher than normal survival rate.

That, friend, is what I call Not A Mite Problem