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  1. #1
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    Default Getting bees out of a house - please offer your 2 cents

    Hi, we're very, very new to beekeeping. We collected our first swarm this year and it couldn't have been any easier than it was (hanging at the end of a branch 8 feet off the ground). I just got a call from a friend that his mom has had bees in her house for a couple of years now. Apparently this weekend they chewed through the wall and were inside the house. Her son (my friend) plugged the holes to keep them from coming in but they need them removed asap. He said they are coming in from an eave. The house has aluminum siding on it. He said go ahead and cut whatever you need to get them out and he will fix it when we're done.
    I've watched videos on collecting bees from a house but I've never done it. I told him we're coming out to evaluate the situation and if we can't get them then we will refer him to a few people we know. The thing is that we really want them...and would really like to get them out of the house for this friend.
    Please...any advice is appreciated!

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    Default Re: Getting bees out of a house - please offer your 2 cents

    look up the "hogan trap out box" and his description on how to use it. He says he has a very good capture rate for getting the queen and all bees out and into the box.

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    Default Re: Getting bees out of a house - please offer your 2 cents

    myfrancesca... Send me an e-mail, cchoganjr@scrtc.com and i will send you my 12 page guide to my system which has complete instructions and photos of traps in progress. (No charge, and no one will call) HA!!!

    You can make your own trap from a 5 frame nuc, 8 framer, or 10 framer.

    You can also google, " trapout, cone funnel method" and read about it. I have intended to write about it, but never got around to it. JP the beeman has a very good video on U-Tube about the cone funnel method. He tells all about how to use it, and describes each step. Very good video, but, PLEASE, wear a veil. There is a link to this video on another thread on this forum. Here is the link to that video,

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTqFbiaD_js

    I will also answer any questions you might have at the e-mail address above. Good luck, and happy trapping.

    cchoganjr
    Last edited by Cleo C. Hogan Jr; 07-22-2013 at 08:48 AM. Reason: to add the link to JP the beeman video

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    Default Re: Getting bees out of a house - please offer your 2 cents

    Eaves/Soffits don't always lend themselves to trap outs, because the bees can get back in their colony at too many places. Most likely easier to just do a cutout if they can be removed from the soffit below.

    Post up some pictures of their entrance and the surrounding construction and we will be able to help you better.

    Don

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    Default Re: Getting bees out of a house - please offer your 2 cents

    I am going to assume a trap-out will not work in this situation because the friend said they're entering through the eaves in different areas. I can't send pictures for help until we show up there tonight after work and I believe the friend is hoping we get it done today. So waiting for responses based on pictures may not work for us.
    The friend knows cutting into the wall is going to happen.

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    Default Re: Getting bees out of a house - please offer your 2 cents

    When we collected the swarm, we just sprayed them with sugar water and laid the branch over the nuc we brought and they all went inside.
    How do we get the bees to go into the nuc from an actual hive? I plan to rubberband the comb into the wood frames BUT how will we get them to go into the nuc? Obviously finding the queen will be difficult and we're not sure how large this hive is...so we just plan to move the comb/eggs over and hope they go in?

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    Default Re: Getting bees out of a house - please offer your 2 cents

    My first colony came form a house cutout.

    I was very surprised tht the bees were not more aggressive...we were prying siding boards up, using a sawzall to expose the brood chamber and cutting brood comb out for an hour and a half barehanded before getting the first sting -- and that was my fault, as I trapped a be under my finger on the bind side of a comb.

    I made an iddee style bee vac and used it to vaccuum most of the bees off of the face of combs before cutting them out.

    Rubber bands to hold comb in the frames is a lot more convenient than tying string.

    Work smoothly and deliberately, budget twice as much time as you think that you will need, put a light colored sheet on the ground below your work area to help you find the queen if you drop her, and when you are finished, with the queen confined in a queen clip in your hive body, place it as near the the former entrance at the soffit as is safely possible to gather in the stragglers.
    Leave it there until night, if you can, and then close them in with a screen you have ready ahead of time.

    Then just take them home, let them calm down, and remove the screen.

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    Default Re: Getting bees out of a house - please offer your 2 cents

    I agree with D Semple.... If you can do a cutout, why not get it over with. Trapouts are normally used when you cannot access the colony directly, or, you just want to take starts from a feral colony to increase hive count, but, do not want to eliminate the colony.

    Lots of farmers will let you do a trapout, but, they do not want the feral colony eliminated. They want the pollinators. Homeowners, on the other hand, normally want the bees totally removed. Some homeowners do not want you removing siding, roofing, or some other part of the house, so do a trapout. Some don't want to have the bees around for a month or six weeks, so, do a cutout. Each has their purpose. See what the homeowner wants, and go from there.

    cchoganjr

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    Default Re: Getting bees out of a house - please offer your 2 cents

    You all are very helpful!
    I listened to the message again and these are the friend's words:
    The bees are inside her walls of her house on an inside corner from the exisiting outside - that's how they're gettig on.
    When I spoke to him we didn't get into a lot of detail except he knows the house will need to be cut into and that the siding is aluminum.
    I can't really make sense of what he means in the voicemail but my assumption is that they're in the corner of a wall area and have now chewed through the wall into the house but they are coming in from the outside.
    Of course this makes matters even more difficult!

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    Default Re: Getting bees out of a house - please offer your 2 cents

    Sheetrock is easier to cut and to repair than siding.

    If you can, do the cutout from the inside. Less work, less damage, and it can be cut with a razor knife and keyhole saw.

    Two overlapping layers of plastic sheet over the door will trap the bees in if carefully frog taped at the edges.

    The hive body can go on the floor or a stepladder when you are done to collect stragglers, and simply opening the (unscreened) windows will allow leftover bees to escape when the morning light draws them to it.

    Incidentally, I know this is a friend and you may elect not to on this one, but I charge homeowners for cutouts, starting at $200 for an easy-peasy one.

    You often lose the queen, and it is a lot of work... not to mention a very valuable service to the homeowner who ikely would otherwise be paying a substantial amount to an exterminator.

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