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  1. #61
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    Default Re: Newbie needing help - overheating

    And I will screen the holes

  2. #62
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    Default Re: Newbie needing help - overheating

    Bearding Bees gone this AM. Here's what I did:
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    My bars are tight. They are numbered to 29 with a spacer bar for each end. They have built out to exactly the middle - they are on bar 16 now.
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    And the bee activity from Friday afternoon to this AM (Monday AM)
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    And I knew those wine corks would come in handy one day - I have wine corks for all 3 holes ready to plug.

  3. #63
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    Default Re: Newbie needing help - overheating

    Quote Originally Posted by sab View Post
    Bearding Bees gone this AM. Here's what I did:
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    My bars are tight. They are numbered to 29 with a spacer bar for each end. They have built out to exactly the middle - they are on bar 16 now.
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    And the bee activity from Friday afternoon to this AM (Monday AM)
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    And I knew those wine corks would come in handy one day - I have wine corks for all 3 holes ready to plug.
    That will work! , the thing I don't like about that design of TBH and you will soon find out, is when the top bars fit tight up against end boards they swell, and at some point will no longer fit. That is why I just lay a flat sheet of plywood on top, my box is flush all the way around and the bars sit on top, not down in, on one of them between swelling and propolis buildup I have lost one whole bar that will no longer fit on it.

  4. #64
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    Default Re: Newbie needing help - overheating

    Looking good! I'll bet you still have some bearding, a total solution may not be found so just go with the flow. As M Bush says "Everything works if you let it".
    Julysun elevation 23 feet. 4 Hives, 2 years.

  5. #65
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    Default Re: Newbie needing help - overheating

    4:30 and 93 degrees ("feels like" 98 temp) and the sun is bright - went to check the hive. There's a 2 inch long by about 1/2 inch thread of bees starting to hang.... nothing like yesterday.... so far lookin' good! Thanks every one!!!

    Now I have a ? about feeding but I'll start a new thread for that one.

  6. #66
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    Default Re: Newbie needing help - overheating

    yeah that's not so bad, I had one of my langs with a top entrance only that had 4-5 lbs bearding the other day LOL

  7. #67
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    Default Re: Newbie needing help - overheating

    The first day of the high heat/humidity here (was Sunday), our tbh's bearded a bit. Yesterday, in even higher humidity, the hives totally bearded - just like you describe, it looked like a comb being built outside the hive! The bees even were bearding out the BACK end of the hive (I have front entrances)! The bees were bearding on the edges of the bars, around the top cover....wherever they could find a spot to hang on for the night! I swear the whole hive was outside to sleep under the stars! (Didn't get a chance to see if it was workers or drones outside....was too dark to distinguish from a distance).

    By morning, the bearding was down to just a couple dozen bees.

    Let's see what tonight brings, as the humidity is just as high. The sun just as strong all day - even though the hives are in the shade from 11am onward. The temps were just as high as yesterday.

    Can't wait for the heat to break....at least the humidity! This beekeeper cannot take it!

  8. #68
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    Default Re: Newbie needing help - overheating

    Let the bearding begin!!!!!
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  9. #69
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    Default Re: Newbie needing help - overheating

    I had been following this thread and got to wondering if the heat was too high in one of my hives. They beard like crazy as well. It has a great roof, when I lift the lid and put my hand under it it seems cooler than the ambient temp. Then I got to thinking about the attic in a house and how it is hotter than blue blazes and got to thinking maybe it should be hotter in there. So I whipped up a vent to let the hot air in the hive escape to the top. basically it is two sticks about 3/8s of an inch in diameter, just some scrap that was laying around, then I put spacers on both ends to separate them about 3/4 or an inch. Stapled some #8 hardware cloth on them and put it in place of a top bar. No beard when I got home, but a shower had come through and cooled off the place. I'll check tomorrow to see if they beard up. I figured if they don't like it they will propolize it closed.

  10. #70
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    Default Re: Newbie needing help - overheating

    Yes, please report after a hot day, we are all interested in how to vent a TBH and for that matter a Lang.
    Julysun elevation 23 feet. 4 Hives, 2 years.

  11. #71
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    Default Re: Newbie needing help - overheating

    i'll check today. On a lang you can use a rim with holes in it covered in hardware cloth for venting.

  12. #72
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    Default Re: Newbie needing help - overheating

    Yesterday was a scorcher and so, sure enough, those bees were out in a really REALLY big beard. They were very calm - just hanging. Most not even moving their wings. I don't feel warm air coming out the holes I drilled. So I guess I'm back to square 1 except I'm armed with the knowledge that this isn't a swarm action. At least not yet.....

  13. #73
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    Default Re: Newbie needing help - overheating

    ??????
    In heat, are you checking the TBH or leaving it untouched?
    If so, weekly? More or less??
    And lastly, do you regularly check every bar?

    I have only checked each bar once since setting up the colony. Bad?

  14. #74
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    Default Re: Newbie needing help - overheating

    I checked today. It is hotter today than on Monday. The bearding is much less today. There is still a decent amount of bees, maybe a cup or so, but the other day it looked like a three pound package.

  15. #75
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    Default Re: Newbie needing help - overheating

    I'm thinking the screen bar is a success. Yesterday was hot again and not much bearding at all

  16. #76
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    Default Re: Newbie needing help - overheating

    sab, what your bees are doing is called "bearding" and is very normal on hot days. I wish I could show you a photo of our bees bearding but I don't know how to post photos. We are in western Colorado where temps have been in the 90's, occ into 3 digits. On hot afternoons the entire end of one of our TBHs is covered with a very thick mass of bees. Looks like a swarm but it's not. They often hang out there until after dark when it cools off. No worries about the bearding but do be very careful not to handle combs at all when the temp is very hot--the wax gets incredibly soft and will fall off easily if moved (don't ask how I know this). So to answer your last question, unless the bees are clearly not well, it is best not to disturb them at all (top bar hives that is) in the summer heat. ...my opinion anyway.

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