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    I've been considering using slatted racks. Currently I run 11 frames in a 10 frame box for brood though, which I believe means for best results, I'm going to need a custom slatted rack if I try it.

    Anyone else try a slatted rack with 11 frames?

    Anyone else care to post experiences with a slatted rack, good or bad?

    Anyone try a slatted rack in the top of the hive (vs the bottom)? Seems like this might be good for isolating the top of the hive from weather a tad more (Of course I've got a full top entrance as well which most don't have).


    Thanks!

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    It doesn't matter how many frames you have. All of the old slatted racks and half of the current slatted racks have the slats running at 90 degrees from the frames... I have not tried one on top. If you did you'd need to put it upside down and I still don't know how that would work. It seems bees like to hang out near the brood nest and that's going to be at the bottom...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bush View Post
    ...If you did you'd need to put it upside down and I still don't know how that would work. ...
    I have seen others talk about turning them upside down in certain conditions but I fail to see how that is different. I have not bought a commercial one so that might be the difference. I have only built one based on plans I found on the net and there wasn't a difference between the top and bottom. What is the difference between the top and the bottom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scallawa View Post
    I have seen others talk about turning them upside down in certain conditions but I fail to see how that is different. I have not bought a commercial one so that might be the difference. I have only built one based on plans I found on the net and there wasn't a difference between the top and bottom. What is the difference between the top and the bottom?
    I am researching the slatted rack as well, and it seems that some designs have the slats as thick/deep as the unit (~2" deep), and some have the slats as only 1/2" thick/deep - so there would be open space under the slats if the unit is 2" thick. If all the parts are the same thickness, it would be easier for me to DIY, but if the space below is needed for insulation or clustering, then...

    Also, some have slats running the whole distance from front to back (in line with frames), and some have a solid board for a few inches at the entrance.

    What difference would these options make in function?

    Another related question. The Slatted bottom is supposed to reduce bearding - but why is bearding something I want to reduce. If they are clustered in the bottom, they are still not doing any work in the hive? I guess they may be safer inside than out?

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    Ours run parallel to the frames. We make our own and have 8 frame equipment. Significantly less bearding in hot weather, brood is closer to the bottom of the frames as we run screened bottom boards year around. Always have bees down there hanging out. I like them, but have not kept track of statistics between hives that have them vs those that don't. One of these days I'll collect the data : ).

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    Any problems with the bees building comb down in the slatted rack?

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    Not at all. I use Killion style slatted racks on all my hives.

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    I find round, hard ladder combs with no stores under strong hives. They are merely showing us that they are better architects than us simple humans.


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    Quote Originally Posted by odfrank View Post
    I find round, hard ladder combs with no stores under strong hives. They are merely showing us that they are better architects than us simple humans.

    I assume this is the under-side of the slatted bottom. The bees would enter the hive, travel over the ladder comb and up thru the slats into the brood area. I wonder if the bees put the comb there to have a comfortable spot to climb, cluster, or hang about as they enter/exit the hive?

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    An improvement I need to make...my slatted racks have slats that fit into grooves -- unfortunately leaves a small gap which is a perfect SMB hiding place -- I am going to fill those gaps.
    I slatted racks until SMB showed up. Currently have removed them and am using Freeman oil traps.

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    Nope, I've never had a comb problem. Now I have one hive that propolizes(?) like crazy. Sticky, silly putty stretchy kind of propolis. They propolized the screened inner cover until it only has a saucer size hole and the slatted rack until it barely had slats any more. I took their slatted rack away from them and let them keep the ruined inner cover. They layer everything in heavy sheets of propolis. It's interesting to open them up and see the heavy sheeting but thank goodness I only have one hive that does that. Couldn't work bees if they all did that.

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