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  1. #1
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    Default Plastic Frames help hide beetles - another reason not to use them.

    I finally got my observation hive back up and running last week. This morning, I went to check on the girls and watched the queen lay a few eggs. Right before I closed the outside doors though, I noticed a little black movement at the botttom of a plastic frame. There was a little black beetle, then I noticed a few more. They were in the 1/8 space that the plastic frames use as apart of the engineered spacing at the bottom. The beetles would duck back everytime a bee walked by, then come back out and check their surroundings.

    I've noticed for years the wax moth larva would get in the side spaces that were about 3/8" and build a cocoon that the bees couldn't pull out, but this was the first time I noticed the beetles using those same odd plastic spaces.

    My bees never liked the plastic frames much. I used them because they were cheap and done, but over and over they've caused issues. The weight throws my extractor off, as well as catching in it. The bees take plastic foundation in a wood frame twice as fast. They warp if they get left in the sun, or because they just want to. This beetle issue is the last straw.

    I was moving to foundationless anyway, it just happened that there was a lot of larva on this old plastic comb that I used to start the observation hive.

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    Default Re: Plastic Frames help hide beetles - another reason not to use them.

    I use plastic green drone frames. I'm wondering what you could safely fill all those extra holes with. Has anybody tried that with any success?

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    Default Re: Plastic Frames help hide beetles - another reason not to use them.

    Hot Glue according to Mike Embrey at the University of Maryland. He states it somewhere in THIS video.

    Matt M.

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    Default Re: Plastic Frames help hide beetles - another reason not to use them.

    It is at the 26:30 point in the video.

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    Default Re: Plastic Frames help hide beetles - another reason not to use them.

    While I love plastic frames for their ease of use (once properly coated with beeswax) I too am going back to wood frames with plastic foundation (not that I'm getting rid of my current plastic frames) .........There are just too many nooks & crannies for the SHB to hide and lay eggs that the bees just can't get to........ Perhaps it is why they can take down a strong hive.......
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    Default Re: Plastic Frames help hide beetles - another reason not to use them.

    Quote Originally Posted by MacNachtan View Post
    Hot Glue according to Mike Embrey at the University of Maryland. He states it somewhere in THIS video.

    Matt M.
    I started with wood frames with wax foundation-took a long time to make. Next year went to plastic, had the beetles an moths-hot glued all spaces, took longer than wood frames. The glue did not stay on the wax edges an it is hard to clean them.

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    Default Re: Plastic Frames help hide beetles - another reason not to use them.

    I can see they are for strength while using less plastic, but I wonder why the plastic frame manufactureres don't make those nooks 1/4" wide so the bees can get into them...
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