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  1. #1
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    Default Very small white worms/larvae on bottom board

    Hi - I am new to beekeeping and this forum. Three weeks ago I installed a five frame nuc into a 10 frame hive and so far things seem to be progressing well.

    Today however I checked the bottom board after a 24 hour period and noticed very very small white worms crawling around. They were so small they were hard to see and the only reason I really noticed them was because they were moving. Had they have been dead I would probably have mistaken then for debris left by the bees. Any idea what these are and if they are a problem?

    Any insight would be appreciated. Thank you!

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    Default Re: Very small white worms/larvae on bottom board

    My guess SHB ....... Potential big problem. But SHB larvae are not THAT tiny and are easily seen. Got any pics?
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    Default Re: Very small white worms/larvae on bottom board

    SHB are tiny when they first emerge. When they are full size the hive is almost a gonner!
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    Default Re: Very small white worms/larvae on bottom board

    SHB larve start out about .01 long and grow... at aboout .100 long there ready to pupate in the ground..... You have a problem... SHB... gaurdstar, and beetle traps..... time to get busy.

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    Default Re: Very small white worms/larvae on bottom board

    Oh no! That's unfortunate news....what are the steps to resolve this? I googled SHB and found this picture, it looks similar to what I saw except on the bottom board.

    Would itbe wise to freeze one of the original frames from the nuc, i have one that looks pretty old and has funky comb and the worms were on that side?

    Also I was In The hive 2 days ago and I didn't notice them on the comb, the hive seems to be strong....the population has increased a lot in fact I was planning on adding a second brood box this week. Do you think it's pointless to do so or is their soe way to help them out? I hate to use chemicals but if that's the only way I might not have a choice.

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    Default Re: Very small white worms/larvae on bottom board

    If you have a screened bottom I would install it ASAP.
    Are your hives on the ground, if so get them up off it ASAP.

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    Default Re: Very small white worms/larvae on bottom board

    Yes you can freeZe to kill them off... reality is your hive is shrinking instead of growing. the area the bees used to cover and store food, is being overrun. so the bees have retreated to protect what they can. Look closer for other issues.
    The other thing that will help is if you can keep the larve from pupateing (reaching the ground alive) I would bet an inspection would show adult beetles.

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    Default Re: Very small white worms/larvae on bottom board

    They are on cinder blocks near a river. The screen bottom board is on, I miss spoke calling it a bottom board.....what I meant by that was the sticky board.

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    Default Re: Very small white worms/larvae on bottom board

    Probably wax moth larvae or Small Hive Beetle larvae if you are in an area where they have become established. When the larvae are larger and you can see the legs, the SHB larvae have 3 pair of legs behind the head.

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