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  1. #1
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    Default Bees Unable to Get Airborne

    Lately, there is 5-10 bees every day that end up in the grass up to 20 feet from hive. They crawl to the top of a grass spear but are unable to fly.

    Wings seem normal, but is this signs of a emerging mite problem?
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    Default Re: Bees Unable to Get Airborne

    In my experince no, It could be related, so do a mite check. how does the brood look???

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    Default Re: Bees Unable to Get Airborne

    Back in the days of trachea mite being a new problem, crawling bees was reported as a symptom of infestation. As I understand it, folks in northern areas still get some reminders that the T mite problem has not completely gone away.
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    Default Re: Bees Unable to Get Airborne

    Quote Originally Posted by gmcharlie View Post
    In my experince no, It could be related, so do a mite check. how does the brood look???
    New queen this year, laying good, brood looked good and good pattern.
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    Default Re: Bees Unable to Get Airborne

    Could they just be getting old? That an honest question from me.

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    Default Re: Bees Unable to Get Airborne

    If brood looks good as mentioned I would probably put on some grease patties for tracheal mites, and if you have a bee inspector, get some samples sent to beltsville for testing...

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    Default Re: Bees Unable to Get Airborne

    Something ive heard is that the system pesticides happens a little differently north of the border. Instead of "ccd", alot of the time you will find confused bees who cannot fly, and die close the the hive. I've talked to many keepers in Ontario who report similar results, so it could be an indication of Neonic poisoning.

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    Default Re: Bees Unable to Get Airborne

    No K wing or tattered wing ends? You may have to look real close.
    T mites may be a cause (mentioned before, just repeating) as well.

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    Default Re: Bees Unable to Get Airborne

    Crawling bees can be trachael mites, also can be nosema, chronic bee paralysis or acute bee paralysis, or the Israel acute paralysis.

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    Default Re: Bees Unable to Get Airborne

    Is there a chance that these are new bees and they were too big for their britches?

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    Default Re: Bees Unable to Get Airborne

    Well... Is there?
    After my 1 pm to 3 pm mass of bees orientation flights, I regularly pick a dozen or so up off the ground and get them back to the hive. Some of them SORTA fly but it just hasn't come to them yet.

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    Default Re: Bees Unable to Get Airborne

    Have never seen this many unable to fly. Most of wings look normal, however a few have deformed wings.

    Have added a grease patty.

    Thanks for the responses.
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    Default Re: Bees Unable to Get Airborne

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackam View Post
    Well... Is there?
    After my 1 pm to 3 pm mass of bees orientation flights, I regularly pick a dozen or so up off the ground and get them back to the hive. Some of them SORTA fly but it just hasn't come to them yet.
    Jackam, not sure what you got going on, but its wrong..... Bees are not baby birds...... they can fly perfectly an hour or two after hatching should the need arise... If you have bees crawling, and they are not old tattered wings, you have an issue......

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    Default Re: Bees Unable to Get Airborne

    Yikes!

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