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    Default What to do ? queen cells ? no queen

    what should I do ? found queen cells but no queen or eggs or larva . should I buy a queen or let the bee's take care of it ? should I remove some queen cells or let them all go ? here are some pictures of what I found
    thanks for the help bee1.jpgbee2.jpgbee3.jpg

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    Default Re: What to do ? queen cells ? no queen

    Let them figure it out. They know exaclty what they are supposed to do.
    If you have the resources, I'd make a nuc or two to have a queen on standby at all times.
    Last edited by Mr.Beeman; 07-04-2013 at 05:29 PM.

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    Default Re: What to do ? queen cells ? no queen

    How do you start a nuc ?

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    Default Re: What to do ? queen cells ? no queen

    Mr. Beeman is exactly right. Let them make their own queen. If you have the resources start a couple of nucs and raise a couple of spare queens. A nuc is a smaller box that only holds 2 to 5 frames. Pull a couple frames of brood and honey complete with bees, from one of your hives, and install them in the nuc. Carefully cut out a couple of the extra queen cells, and add them to the nuc, then let the bees in the nuc hatch a queen from the cells you installed. This is a short version of starting a nuc to raise a queen, but it sounds like you haven't had much experience at nucs and splitting bees. So I would advise you to find someone local with the knowledge to help you with your first queen rearing nuc. Short of that, with no knowledge or help on making a nuc, I would probably leave the hive alone and let nature take its course.

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    Default Re: What to do ? queen cells ? no queen

    I think I will wait and see what happens . How long should I wait before I check for a queen?

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    Default Re: What to do ? queen cells ? no queen

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill91143 View Post
    Mr. Beeman is exactly right. Let them make their own queen. If you have the resources start a couple of nucs and raise a couple of spare queens. A nuc is a smaller box that only holds 2 to 5 frames. Pull a couple frames of brood and honey complete with bees, from one of your hives, and install them in the nuc. Carefully cut out a couple of the extra queen cells, and add them to the nuc, then let the bees in the nuc hatch a queen from the cells you installed. This is a short version of starting a nuc to raise a queen, but it sounds like you haven't had much experience at nucs and splitting bees. So I would advise you to find someone local with the knowledge to help you with your first queen rearing nuc. Short of that, with no knowledge or help on making a nuc, I would probably leave the hive alone and let nature take its course.


    Being a new package in may wouldn't it be a bad idea to pull a couple frames out and make a split (nuc) now? Or would this just be to hatch a queen?

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    Default Re: What to do ? queen cells ? no queen

    Nuc's are invaluable in my apiary. It can give you an immediate laying queen for a queenless hive or build up a weaker hive by donating frames of brood as the nuc explodes with population. When late fall comes, add the nuc to your weakest hive or overwinter it if it has a queen at that point.
    Honestly I didn't think much about nuc's at first. Now... I can't see me not having at least two.

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    Default Re: What to do ? queen cells ? no queen

    On a similar topic...what would happen if you had a Nuc that had a laying worker,and tried to introduce a Queen?
    Or split that Nuc and hope for the best and one Nuc accepts that Queen and the other would perish?

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    Default Re: What to do ? queen cells ? no queen

    Honestly, I have yet to come across that scenario. It is only a few days and a queen cell is drawn. I don't believe there is enough time for a worker to become a laying worker. I believe it takes a certain length of time for a laying worker hive to establish itself. I keep a pretty close eye on the nuc hives. Although once queenless, there is certainley enough eggs to start a new queen quickly.
    I've split nucs before with no laying worker issues.
    I have one hive that has been queenless for 35 days or so that has yet to go laying worker on me. The queens should emerge any day now though.

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    Default Re: What to do ? queen cells ? no queen

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Beeman View Post
    Nuc's are invaluable in my apiary. It can give you an immediate laying queen for a queenless hive or build up a weaker hive by donating frames of brood as the nuc explodes with population. When late fall comes, add the nuc to your weakest hive or overwinter it if it has a queen at that point.
    Honestly I didn't think much about nuc's at first. Now... I can't see me not having at least two.
    So if I started a nuc when it builds itself up what do I do with it? Add it to another hive or start a new one? Or split it in to another nuc? Sorry for all the questions just want to be prepared if I go that way.

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