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    Default wax worm frames

    I let a hive go to due to a laying worker so I watched it to see what would happen. Before I knew it there were wax worms in it and a mess. I was wondering what to do with the frames. Could I reuse the frame and drawn comb in another hive? will the bees clean it up and reuse it or should I cut my loses and freeze then melt the wax? thanks Doeboy

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    Default Re: wax worm frames

    Freeze it first then give it back to a strong hive to fix. They will fix it up like new much quicker than they will draw new from scratch.

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    I am guessing they are small hive beetle larva? are you sure they are wax worms? wax worms would be a new one on me...

    If it is small hive beetle larva....
    Last year I had one hive that I almost lost to small hive beetles... When they started hatching out and were in the larva state and the hive could not deal with this losing battle... I shook the bees on new foundation.. the brood was ruined already.... then the old frames invested with beetle larva, I put in a another box... found a huge fire ant next.. took kicked the ants to get them all upset.. then set the box down and let the fire ants do all the clean up. The only thing I know fire ants are good for.. I went back a week later and got my box back from the fire ants.. I just set it up on a sheet of plywood and put some cinnamon spice in there to run the ants out.

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    Default Re: wax worm frames

    Sorry hive beetles I've set them out well away from the hives to let the bees eat what s left of the honey. I'll fez them tomorrow for a while. Thanks for the replies. DOEBOY

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    Try your best not to let those nasty little critters get to the ground... They will go there and return later as adult hive beetles...... I am starting to hate any sort of beetles... I used to like VWs until I started keeping bees...

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    Lost my first hive today to Hive Beetles. It was one of my stronger hives last year, but due to the wet spring, I was late getting in to check it. The queen was shotgunning her laying pattern and the hive was already weakened. Bought a new queen and requeened the hive. Apparently, the Hive Beetles had gained the upper hand. Checked the hive today and the bees had absconded. Lots of beetle larva both in the frames and in the oil trap below the hive. Filled the freezer with the "cleaned out" frames. On the positive side, I now have already drawn frames to use when needed.

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    How big are SHB larva? I cleaned out a dead hive over the weekend and there were a lot of larva that were 3/4" long and 1/10" diameter. I figured they were wax worms.
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    The problem with the question "how large are..." when referring to larvae (wax moth or small hive beetle), is that they start out small and end up large. They aren't just one size...
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    These were pretty big worms. I assumed that since hive beetles are small, the worms would not be as big as what I saw.

    I saw a lot of what looked like web too.
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    Nabber, sounds like wax moth to me, I just took down a hive yesterday that could not recover after becoming weak and being overrun by shb. The webbing is the key. Shb larvae simply crawl/chew through the cells to get to the stores. They don't make webs. Also, in various stages, the shb larvae will be between about 3/16 to around 1/2 inch long. Some healthy ones might get slightly longer, but not much.

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    Mb is right - they do grow, but the beetle larvae only get to half the size of wax worms. The beetle larvae get to about a half inch in length and are much smaller in diameter. A more positive ID is that beetle larvae have spikes on the outside of the body.

    Walt

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    Quote Originally Posted by casinoken View Post
    Nabber, sounds like wax moth to me,
    Well I put the whole super in the deep freeze Sunday afternoon.
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    Get some payback. Take wax worms fishing. Put them on a very small lead head feathered jig. They are the best bait for large bluegill and crappie I have ever found.
    I catch 15 inch crappie on them and 13 inch bluegill.
    All the best.

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    I should have done that (fishing).

    My wife just e-mailed me wondering why the freezer is full of "your stupid bee stuff".
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