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    Agree.

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    "People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe."- Andy Rooney

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    "One California beekeeper was especially strident, going to great lengths to try to discredit their study."

    Now we know who it was.

    Unfortunately, he tried to do it before the study was published since he got hold of a copy of the paper. That's a big no, no.

    My opinion: mediocre paper, good hypothesis.

    Since mercury was found in HFCS years back, it makes sense to check it for other contaminants from time to time.

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    Dosing bees with 40 times realistic exposure (after the bees didn't respond to normal testing) doesn't really sound like an accurate field study.
    Zone 9b. Second year newb.

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    We've discussed this before here on BeeSource.

    Their experimental design was 'Doo Doo'.

    However, despite Randy's vehement objections, it sold very well in Italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WLC View Post
    Unfortunately, he tried to do it before the study was published since he got hold of a copy of the paper. That's a big no, no.
    Errrr, Dr Lu was happy.to give presentations on the results and put out a press release as to the conclusions of the study before it was released.....and at the time the globe did a story based on the press release.

    So the author and the institution can publish their results and seek press, yet fatal flaws in procedure and conclusions are off limits?

    Its also a no no to present that the bt in bt corn is used, not for the bt toxin, but as a was to inject neonics into the dna of the plant.

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    Dean:

    Please tell me that you didn't contact 'The Bulletin' to try and suppress the study.

    I'm picking up on a bias towards Dr. Lu here.

    When have any of you gone after a scientist before, like some of you did in the case of Dr. Lu?

    Who instigated the 'lynching' of a U.S. scientist?

    I don't think that it was you.

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    I contacted "the bulliten" after the lead study author told me to submit my questions to the journals letters to the editor section. I could find no was to do so on their website, so I contacted the journal to ask how to do so.

    Next up.....Dean is accused of the crime of reading the study.

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