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  1. #1
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    Default Empty frames-Foul brood or paranoia?

    I checked a hive in my outyard that I put 10F wax shallows on. The super was half drawn out but completely empty. I mean clean. I always see something going into newly drawn comb. I keep going back to a thing one of the old timers at the club said: ‘if they aint putting up honey during the flow you got foul brood’
    Hive is a swarm from earlier this year, drew out two deeps and starting on this super.
    “Why do we fall, sir? So that we might learn to pick ourselves up” Alfred Pennyworth Batman Begins (2005)

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    Default Re: Empty frames-Foul brood or paranoia?

    Did you look into the brood nest? What do you see there?

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    Default Re: Empty frames-Foul brood or paranoia?

    If you don't look at the brood combs you will never know.

    Maybe it was robbed.
    Mark Berninghausen
    The answers are the end. The questions are the journey. Journey on.



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    Default Re: Empty frames-Foul brood or paranoia?

    Looked like a good pattern on brood frames. Nothing out of the ordinary but I was wondering if I have always had it and it simply looks ‘normal’ to me. I did have a scatter gun pattern on one of my hives but I am bad about moving drawn foundation when I get a dead out. I label all of my frames with the year and foundation type, maybe I should draw a mark on dead out hives?
    The hive with all the drawn foundation got run over when the farmers water truck got loose last Saturday. I need to get back out there in the daylight (I figure they will still be pretty hot I was really covered in bees that night).
    “Why do we fall, sir? So that we might learn to pick ourselves up” Alfred Pennyworth Batman Begins (2005)

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    Default Re: Empty frames-Foul brood or paranoia?

    > ‘if they aint putting up honey during the flow you got foul brood’

    The first time I've every heard that...
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    Default Re: Empty frames-Foul brood or paranoia?

    The trick in most cases is to have the ability to recognize the flow..
    "Tradition becomes our security, and when the mind is secure it is in decay".....Krishnamurti

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    Default Re: Empty frames-Foul brood or paranoia?

    Quote Originally Posted by minz View Post
    ‘if they aint putting up honey during the flow you got foul brood’
    Well that's just silly. Some people are better off keeping a lid on it.
    Pearl City Apiary Michael and Loucil Bach

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    Default Re: Empty frames-Foul brood or paranoia?

    Recognizing a flow? I figure I have two, one in the spring starting with plum and ending in apple and the second trailing off now when every uncultivated patch that is full of Himalayan black berry turns white with blooms.
    Thanks for the input, I didn’t believe it the last couple of years but when the hive has 14 deeps of honey and no supers touched I start to question everything.
    “Why do we fall, sir? So that we might learn to pick ourselves up” Alfred Pennyworth Batman Begins (2005)

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