Just passing along what I saw today.
Just passing along what I saw today.
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looks like it was Safari that they were using.
it looks like they instruct to not apply it on trees in bloom to avoid bees
On the one hand the pollinator protection groups keep telling us "bumblebees are on the brink" "our food supply is threatened". And then it turns out bumblebees are actually doing so well there were 25,000 of them located in an asphalt suburban habitat: https://imageshack.com/a/img507/7028/5893.jpg
"In the midwestern United States, University of Illinois researchers examined the status of bumblebees in that state and identified the local extirpation of four bumblebee species along with range reductions for an additional four species. On a larger geographic scale, University of Illinois researchers also assessed the occurrence of eight species across their historic ranges in the United States, identifying distributional reductions for four of the targeted species."
Assuming foliar application of Safari (dont you just love that name?) was the cause of this kill, it just clearly points out the dangers of any type of insecticide used in such a manner and the very reason systemic treatments were developed in the first place.
"Ve are too soon olt und too late schmart."- A nameless German philosopher
Death count on bees now over 50,000....
But instead of reassuring the public that the bumblebee population in the area is still high and will be for years to come, some scientists are hyping up the biological significance of the incident in a way that frightens and alarms the public and reporters.
1) "Rich Hatfield, a biologist with the Xerces Society, estimates that over 50,000 bumble bees were killed, likely representing more than 300 wild colonies. “Each of those colonies could have produced multiple new queens that would have gone on to establish new colonies next year. This makes the event particularly catastrophic.”
2) In a TV interview Mace Vaughn, pollinator conservation specialist with Xerces told the reporter:
"To see something like this, what it does for me is bring it home that we got alot of work to do to understand how to not harm these insects that are critical to our food supply."
Sorry BlueDiamond ...no matter one's love/defense for neonics, spraying neonics (Safari, Dinotefuran) and killing 50,000 pollinators is not OK - and is a criminal offense. They just wiped out ~50,000 pollinators ..that has an effect.
"This product is highly toxic to bees exposed to direct
treatment or residues on blooming crops or
weeds. Do not apply this product or allow it to drift
to blooming crops or weeds if bees are visiting the
It is a violation of Federal law to use this product in
a manner inconsistent with its labeling.
So we see that even if extraordinary measures were taken to prevent another shopping center bee kill (e.g. banning neonicotinoid insecticides, quadrupling label violation fines, requiring applicators to have a 4 year college degree, etc) they would not improve the bumblebee population numbers in the region in a mathematically meaningful way.
Seriously Blue Diamond?????????? It's OK to kill 50,000 bees becuase there appears to quite a few more than what certain pollinator groups say there are...OK, OK what side are you on again ??? Are you for real ??? Alot of posters here who supposedly love bees to death take up your defense for you ... must be becuase they have several forum ID's here.
Keep banging on how pesticides saved the world.
Think about it....Buy American
Your mantra is pointless and mute - and falsely represents the situation.
I'm quite curious and hopefully you don't take offence - but do you post anything that doesn't have to do with supporting insecticides or in defense of Monsanto, Bayer and Syngenta?
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If you take a look at BlueDiamond's posting history, you will see that he/she ONLY posts here on Beesource on threads about pesticide use, and, that he/she ALWAYS defends and promotes said pesticide use and the companies that manufacture them.
I will leave you to draw your own conclusions about why that might be........
Is it just me? Or does no one else out there realize that Blue Diamond is the largest almond producer in the world? LOL, haven't really been keeping up with this thread but saw a comment about how Blue Diamond was defending the pesticide industry. Made me laugh. Of course Blue Diamond would do that.
why put up nets? wouldn't a liberal use of "bee go" be more effective of keeping the bees out of the trees than nets?