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    Default Expensive bottom board screens!

    I'm wanting to make some screened bottom boards, but can't find any small mesh screen locally. Looked on line and found some available from Greenbeehives, BUT, the price for two screens is $18.00, plus shipping, totals $27.50. That seems to be too expensive to me when Mann Lake is selling complete screened bottom boards with pull out tray for $26.95. Am I missing something here?

    Merle

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    Default Re: Expensive bottom board screens!

    Google hardware cloth #8. Sears got it for $13 plus $9 shipping. Jackson Wire 1/8x36x10 Redi-Roll Hdwe Cloth (10 is in ft.)

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    Default Re: Expensive bottom board screens!

    Brushy Mountain sells#8 hardware cloth by the foot:
    http://www.brushymountainbeefarm.com...oductinfo/539/
    Graham
    USDA Zone 7A Elevation 1400 ft

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    Default Re: Expensive bottom board screens!

    I have been happy with Carmack Bee supply. http://www.carmacksupply.com/

    They appear to be having some trouble with flooding near them that could delay things, but I've ordered from them twice and have been very happy. If you were to order 10 of them assembled they would be 9$ each + 32$ shipping for an average price of 12.20 each. Granted you might not need 10, but even at 5 the cost per is like 15$ I think. If you assemble them yourself they are even cheaper.

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    Default Re: Expensive bottom board screens!

    Go to Lowe's and buy #8 Hardwar cloth. U can get a whole roll for less than that.

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    Default Re: Expensive bottom board screens!

    > Go to Lowe's and buy #8 Hardwar cloth

    If the Lowes in your area stock #8 hardware cloth, count yourself among the fortunate few. Many Lowes stores do not offer this item. Anyone have a link to this item at a Lowes store?

    Some Ace Hardware stores do stock #8 hardware cloth, but it seems to be a local option. The Ace near me does not carry it.
    Graham
    USDA Zone 7A Elevation 1400 ft

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    Default Re: Expensive bottom board screens!

    the reason for the expense is that it is not #8. It is #6, which is much harder to find. #8 may still be too smal for the adult hive beetles to fall through. #4 is too big and bees can get stuck. #6 is about perfect, but really hard to find.

    I make my own, but really like the all plastic trays with basically a cover made out of the same stuff as a propolis trap. You can also use #4, and overlap it so that the wires cross each other, making slits. That will keep the bees out of the tray, but still allow the adult beetles to run down.

    Rob.

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    Default Re: Expensive bottom board screens!

    I am with Radar Sidetrack....I have never been able to get #8 hardware cloth a Lowe's. I have always purchases mine at a Tru-Value hardware store.

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    Default Re: Expensive bottom board screens!

    > the reason for the expense is that it is not #8. It is #6, which is much harder to find.

    Oops! RobWok is correct. Here's the description of the wire from the "bare Kit" page, the assembled version is linked below:
    This is just the #6 .035 mesh cut to size and the aluminum tray with cypress face plate. You furnish the wood and fasteners for the screen bottom board the tray goes into. instructions are found on the DIY page.
    http://www.greenbeehives.com/ipk-sma...d-painted.html
    Graham
    USDA Zone 7A Elevation 1400 ft

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    Default Re: Expensive bottom board screens!

    Quote Originally Posted by RobWok View Post
    the reason for the expense is that it is not #8. It is #6, which is much harder to find. #8 may still be too smal for the adult hive beetles to fall through. #4 is too big and bees can get stuck. #6 is about perfect
    Rob.
    #6 is perfect if you make a pollen trap. The reason I know that is because I used to have my bottom boards covered with #6 hardware cloth. If I would put an empty tray under it would be full of pollen. Oil tray would be full of dead bees. It might also be dependent of genetics. If your bees are slightly bigger, may be they would not be able to get through. But it is actually recommended to use #6 hardware cloth for pollen traps.

    If you say that your adult hive beetles get stuck in #8 hardware cloth you need to stop feeding them. Such beetle would be a sight to behold. At that point you've got a bigger problem. On the other hand if your bees get stuck in #4 hardware cloth may be you don't. You bees would be a match for those #8 beetle (which at that point you can't honestly call the small hive beetle ) You need to stop feeding them as well.
    Last edited by ArtSmart; 06-20-2013 at 11:06 AM.

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    Default Re: Expensive bottom board screens!

    Lowes and Home Depot and any self-respecting farm supply store ought to be more than happy to order you a roll of #8 screen wire. The only down side is it comes in 50' lengths, which is no problem for me. My last purchase was $64 which is a little more than a buck a foot, and given the hassle of ordering, I ordered two rolls. My locally-owned ACE hardware store will sell it to me by the foot for about $3.25 per foot.

    Grant
    Jackson, MO
    Beekeeping With Twenty-five Hives: https://www.createspace.com/4152725

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    Default Re: Expensive bottom board screens!

    heres where i got it free shipping

    http://www.amazon.com/Redi-Roll-Hard...+48%22+x+10%27

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    Default Re: Expensive bottom board screens!

    Check out the little hardware stores in your area. There are going to be a few who have a dusty roll on a shelf somewhere.

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    Default Re: Expensive bottom board screens!

    One of our local ace hardware stores will order anything that is in their online catalog, and have it in the store in a few days with no shipping charges. So it's probably a matter of getting someone that gives a flip to help you.

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    Default Re: Expensive bottom board screens!

    Local Lowe's, Home Depot, Ace, and True-Value in the Memphis area stock hardware cloth no smaller than #4, and obviously the window-screen material is far too small. Colonial Hardware (independent store) next to Bass Pro off Macon have #8 galvanized on a 3-ft. roll, I bought 10 ft. for $2.29/ft. Pretty sure you have to go there, but http://www.colonialhardwareinc.com/

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    Default Re: Expensive bottom board screens!

    Ace HW stocks it by the foot.

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    Default Re: Expensive bottom board screens!

    Use stainless steel security mesh as in front doors.

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    Default Re: Expensive bottom board screens!

    The best price I've found is at Toolking.com. Various lengths and widths. I buy in 24" wide 50' rolls for my bottom board and bee vac projects. Shipping is fast and reasonable.

    http://www.toolking.com/search/?q=1%...hardware+cloth

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    Default Re: Expensive bottom board screens!

    I found #8 hardware cloth by the foot at a True Value....after checking about 5 other of my "best option" locations. Then a week later, found Oxalic acid in the same True Value after, once again, exhausting my best options....Go figure.

    Good news is that I have a new best option.

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