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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Russians, pros & cons

    That could be a good trait for me. I am always in need of new queens, it seems. I wonder if they do like regular Russian and have a few on stand-by most of the time.
    NM desert/mountain beekeeper - Black Mesa Honeybees.

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    Default Re: Russians, pros & cons

    As I stated earlier I have some Yugos. Yugos are supposedly a cross between Russians and Carinolans. If they are a Russian cross then it's a trait of theirs to keep extra queen cells in the hive. I always find queen cells in my Russians, and since I was pre-warned that this is a common trait of Russians it doesn't bother me. I occasionally find cells in my Yugos but not like the Russians. I don't think cutting the cells out will help. It seems they tear the cells down before hatching if they don't need them. I can rob the cells from one of my hives to make some queens and in two days they will have more cells started.

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    Default Re: Russians, pros & cons

    I know Tabers or honey bee genetics in Vacaville sells the yugo/russian & has for years. Think it meant Yugoslavia. I had some about 5 years ago & they where good bees.
    Not sure how much Russian blood could remain in them after so many years of raising them. It would be interesting to find out.
    Dan

  4. #24
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    Default Re: Russians, pros & cons

    My Yugo queens I got from Taber's are the blackest bees I've seen. They are also prolific layers, and very gentle, too. I honestly can't tell much difference in them and my Russians except the Russian queens aren't nearly as black.

  5. #25
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    Default Re: Russians, pros & cons

    Now I want some!

    How productive are they? I have heard they are a breed of Carniolan that is found on Primorsky, and have no real relation to Russian bees.
    NM desert/mountain beekeeper - Black Mesa Honeybees.

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    Default Re: Russians, pros & cons

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul McCarty View Post
    Now I want some!

    How productive are they? I have heard they are a breed of Carniolan that is found on Primorsky, and have no real relation to Russian bees.
    This is my first year with the Yugos, but I don't see much difference from my Russians. They don't keep quite as many, just in case queen cells on hand, but at times they seem to make a few cells then will tear them down before they hatch. I set up 4 nucs of Yugos this spring and 2 of them have totally exploded and 2 are just getting by. They seem to be very gentle. So far I really like them. After this winter I'll decide if they are keepers.

  7. #27
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    Default Re: Russians, pros & cons

    I have almost bit the bullet and bought several Yugo queens for two years now. Each time I talk myself out of it. I think they would be awesome crossed with our wild mountain bees.
    NM desert/mountain beekeeper - Black Mesa Honeybees.

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