Agreed! We do need to understand these types of problems. As to the pesticide problem, All the beekeepers in the world don't have enough money to " out bid " the chemical giants. Very , very sad, but very TRUE. I guess what I'm saying is, as usual, it all boils down to money. That's the real tragedy.
All things may be lawful; but not all things are advantagous.
As a matter of fact it's getting harder and harder to get bee yards down here due to the # of beeks increasing there hive numbers. Something doesn't make sense to me, but then again many things confuse me lately.
mike syracuse ny
Whatever you subsidize you get more of. Ronald Reagan
Mike, according to Jim, he called the DEC to come out to see his dead or dying hives and to see if they would take samples and figure out what was killing them. I think that's their job. Supposedly, I wasn't there, so this is what I heard from Jim, they came the first time and, I believe, took samples. He talks about those samples in his interview. They didn't come out again and didn't test the samples.
THis is all hearsay, as they say, and from the aggrieved party, so who knows how accurate this is. Maybe it's just another example of beekeeping being the stepchild of Agriculture, the biggest industry in NY State. And, maybe, DEC is swamped w/ work on other things, so Jim's case was low on the totem pole. They just hadn't gotten to it in a timely fashion. I don't know. You'll have to ask Jim. I imagine the Doans will still go to the State Meetings.
"Beekeeping being the stepchild of Agriculture" - that's because of these antics. Where is the proof? Samples were taken and were inconclusive. Why is it only Mr. Doan with all these calamities in NY? You'd think he had a pesticide tanker truck following him from state to state.
It scares the mess out of me when people assume that something causes something without hard evidence to prove it. Usually it's emotionally driven "Monsanto is the devil" type rhetoric. That's what leads to legislation which is at best ineffective and at worst down right dangerous.
Here's some research on neo-nics that probably hasn't gotten too much attention:
"The previous research has been cited by scientists, environmentalists and policy-makers as evidence of the future impact of these pesticides on honeybees. It is likely that the research was instrumental in the French government's recent decision to ban the use of thiamethoxam, a neonicotinoid that is the active ingredient of Cruiser OSR, a pesticide produced by the Swiss company Syngenta.
However, the new paper argues that the calculations made in the research were flawed because they failed to reflect the rate at which honeybee colonies recover from losing individuals."
Try it. What could happen?
Well writ J.
Quite interesting that the article's author (Dr. James Cresswell from University of Exeter ) lists on his bio page that he is currently being funded by Syngenta, one of the world's largest producers of neonics.....
I can agree that there's a conflict of interest there. However, Dr. Cresswell says himself that pesticides can be harmful to bees:Quite interesting that the article's author (Dr. James Cresswell from University of Exeter ) lists on his bio page that he is currently being funded by Syngenta, one of the world's largest producers of neonics.....
"I am definitely not saying that pesticides are harmless to honeybees, but I think everyone wants to make decisions based on sound evidence -- and our research shows that the effects of thiamethoxam are not as severe as first thought."
The facts are not in on CCD. It's difficult for me to assume that neonics cause colony collapse when there are 20 posts a month on Beesource which say "hive just collapsed, can't figure out why." When in fact the beekeeper never did a mite check, never checked winter stores, let the bees freeze, let the hive get taken over by hive beetles (or wax moths), or set his bees where pesticide spraying was to take place.
Nobody is saying that neonics are harmless to bees. The question to be answered is this: to what extent are neonics harmful to bees?
I do not believe that neonics can be the magic bullet when there are so many other threats to bees.
Try it. What could happen?
If anyone wondered what Jim will do now that he is a sideliner I see he will be in Medina,OH as part of Bee Cultures "Keepin' Em Alive and Gettin' Em There" Day.
I thought it interesting that 3 of the 14 photos in the add featured semi load beehive spills.