Results 1 to 9 of 9
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    LaGrange; Oldham County; Kentucky
    Posts
    158

    Default How long until swarm has good laying pattern?

    Hi all. A swarm moved into one of my swarm traps on May 19. I waited until last week to transfer it out of the trap. (trap is an 8 frame deep) It seemed to be pretty full. At the time I was transferring the frames from the trap to the 10 frame deep, I noticed brood of all stages. Did not see the queen but saw eggs, larvae and capped brood. My concern was that the brood pattern was spotty. I wondered, after swarming does it take time to get a solid pattern going or should the queen be laying a solid pattern now? It has been four weeks. Thanks in advance!

  2. #2
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Knox, Pa. USA
    Posts
    1,243

    Default Re: How long until swarm has good laying pattern?

    It depends on weather it is a primary swarm, or an after swarm, which has a virgin queen. the primary swarm should fall into pattern right away. an after swarm should take the same amount of time as any virgin queen.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Bloomfield,KY
    Posts
    272

    Default Re: How long until swarm has good laying pattern?

    Melanie, Since this is a swarm the old queen generally goes with the swarm and many times she is coming to the end of her best laying. This would account for the spotty laying pattern. Generally the bees will supersede her after a round or two of brood. Once a new queen has been made the pattern should look better. Also if this turned out to be an after swarm the queen may have been a virgin when they swarmed and sometimes a newly mated queen takes a little time to "get it right". Hope this helps.
    "Of all God's creatures, only the honeybee improves its environment and preys on no other species."--Haydon Brown

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    LaGrange; Oldham County; Kentucky
    Posts
    158

    Default Re: How long until swarm has good laying pattern?

    Thank you all! My assumption was that this was an after swarm, simply because of the small size of the swarm. I could be totally wrong!

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    East Peoria, IL
    Posts
    398

    Default Re: How long until swarm has good laying pattern?

    I have a swarm caught on Memorial Day from one of my hives that as of a week ago hadn't got it quite figured out but the workers left a nice area for her to get to work. Nice honey and pollen band over a completely empty broodnest. Really amazing to see to be honest.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    South Jordan, Utah, USA
    Posts
    126

    Default Re: How long until swarm has good laying pattern?

    Probably beating a dead horse here, but if the queen was a virgin, your capped brood should be fairly light in color (young brood), and yes...probably spotty while she ramps up.

    If she was an older queen, she should have some darker capped brood with some emerging young which could possibly be causing the spotty looking pattern.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Roanoke, VA
    Posts
    1,438

    Default Re: How long until swarm has good laying pattern?

    What does the age of the queen have to do with the color of the capping over the brood? I haven't heard about that before. I thought the color of the capping is just based on how long the brood had been capped.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    South Jordan, Utah, USA
    Posts
    126

    Default Re: How long until swarm has good laying pattern?

    Quote Originally Posted by shannonswyatt View Post
    What does the age of the queen have to do with the color of the capping over the brood? I haven't heard about that before. I thought the color of the capping is just based on how long the brood had been capped.
    If the queen was a laying queen right from the start, she would have older brood (thus, darker colored brood) than a virgin queen would have...it would take a virgin queen 3-4 weeks (depending on when she got mated) to start laying, so all of her capped brood (assuming she had any by 3-4 weeks) would be lighter in color by the time you got your first look in there. Hope that makes more sense.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Roanoke, VA
    Posts
    1,438

    Default Re: How long until swarm has good laying pattern?

    Gotcha. I was reading the post as saying virgin queens would have light cappings and older queens would have dark capings, based on the queen and not the length of time the brood had been capped.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Ads