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    Default Honey Harvesting with a Meat Grinder????

    This may be the most stupid question there is on this forum, but I am new, and it was something that popped into my head. I was thinking about mechanical ways to extract the honey from the comb. I was thinking about rigging up a potatoe ricer and seeing if that would work. Then I thought, I have a meat grinder that could work. Has anyone thought about/tried something like this? I am trying to think energy efficiency for myself.

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    Default Re: Honey Harvesting with a Meat Grinder????

    I don't think you'd gain much from the meat grinder. the idea is to either squish the honey out of the wax (crush and strain method) or fling the honey out of the comb (normal extractor method. With the meat grinder, you'd certainly smash up the wax, but it wouldn't be separated frm the honey at all, so you'd have a sticky mess, but be no closer to eatable honey.

    I guess you could grind it up and let it sit on a screen for a bit to drip hney out, but i doubt it would be worth it.

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    Default Re: Honey Harvesting with a Meat Grinder????

    Sounds like huge mess to me

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    Default Re: Honey Harvesting with a Meat Grinder????

    I am curious if someone comes up with a good idea. I think for a bit to see if I come up with anything. Other ideas what about a seed or wine press?

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    Default Re: Honey Harvesting with a Meat Grinder????

    Delta, I actually did some more digging and found some presses online. Nothing that looks great but doable. Anyone used one of these presses?

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    Default Re: Honey Harvesting with a Meat Grinder????

    Apple/vine-juice press would work very nicely. There is a guy from Germany (Berhnard?) he published bunch of pictures on beesource (link?) how he is using this press - very neat setup.

    If you are looking for more exotic ways (meat grinder, I have to admit - very exotic to me!) - what about regular electrical centrifugal juicer? I would imagine that honey should be heated to be liquid enough to pass the juicer. If you wanted to patent it - please, remember who gave you this idea!
    Серёжа, Sergey

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    Default Re: Honey Harvesting with a Meat Grinder????

    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sterilite-...-Tint/20699681

    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Rubbermaid...tlyViewedItems

    http://www.mannlakeltd.com/mm5/merch...ate#!HH-606/0/

    I got a this Sterilite storage container at Walmart, first link above.

    I got 2 dish drainers like the second link above at walmart.

    I cut up the dish drainers so that one fits on bottom of the tote. I made it so that the dish slots, when bent, hold frames upside down between the dish slots. I cut up the second drainer to fit on top, keeping the frames straight up and down as they sit upside down.

    I got a honey gate from Mannlake, the third link above. I mounted it at the bottom of a short side of the tote.

    I put in 5 medium Langstroth frames, upside down, and placed it in the sun (make sure it's not too hot). This setup holds 6 frames, I only had 5 that were capped (I used a cappings scratcher to lift up the cappings on the frames).

    I got a gallon plus a pint of honey from this setup. If I had extracted, I would only have gotten 1 pint more. I think this is great for a small number of frames to extract without having to mess up my 4 frame tangent extractor, and clean up is easy. I got my honey, the combs were not destroyed and were put back on the hives wet. This worked great for me and I'll be using it more when I only have a few frames to extract at a time.

    I think this would work much better than a meat grinder!

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    Default Re: Honey Harvesting with a Meat Grinder????

    You know, you can buy a small extractor for around $200.00 and they work very well. Plus, you save your drawn comb. I sure hate to waste drawn comb.

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    Default Re: Honey Harvesting with a Meat Grinder????

    I've got a Squeeze-O that's decades old which we use for applesauce and tomato juice that I'm dying to try out. Be interesting to see if it works out when [if] I harvest the TBH.

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    Default Re: Honey Harvesting with a Meat Grinder????

    Not the most stupid....but close... :-)

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    Default Re: Honey Harvesting with a Meat Grinder????

    Quote Originally Posted by Kentucky27 View Post
    This may be the most stupid question there is on this forum, but I am new, and it was something that popped into my head. I was thinking about mechanical ways to extract the honey from the comb. I was thinking about rigging up a potatoe ricer and seeing if that would work. Then I thought, I have a meat grinder that could work. Has anyone thought about/tried something like this? I am trying to think energy efficiency for myself.
    It's not a stupid question. It is sacreligious though. Extracting, by definition, is removing honey from the comb and leaving the comb intact. CWhat you are talking about is a type of crushing and straining. I think you should do it so you can learn whether it is a good idea or not.
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    Default Re: Honey Harvesting with a Meat Grinder????

    Quote Originally Posted by RayMarler View Post
    ...I got my honey, the combs were not destroyed and were put back on the hives wet. This worked great for me and I'll be using it more when I only have a few frames to extract at a time.... I think this would work much better than a meat grinder!
    Could you share the picture of the whole setup? Sounds very interesting. Thanks.
    Серёжа, Sergey

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    Default Re: Honey Harvesting with a Meat Grinder????

    The reason I see for crush and strain is that when you are a hobbyist it doesn't make sense to spend $200 or more (sometimes much more) for an extractor for a couple of hives. If you're going to spend $200 or more for a press, you may as well buy an extractor...

    http://bushfarms.com/beesharvest.htm
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    Default Re: Honey Harvesting with a Meat Grinder????

    Or simply buy a single frame extractor. Or build one. Look it up.
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    Default Re: Honey Harvesting with a Meat Grinder????

    I hesitated to point this out, (but now I am anyway) that this is the Warre forum. I have never seen such a hive in person, but its my understanding that an extractor is not much use with a Warre hive.

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    Default Re: Honey Harvesting with a Meat Grinder????

    Quote Originally Posted by Rader Sidetrack View Post
    this is the Warre forum.
    I was going to say something as well, but I figured.. Naaa... I'll see how many people spout off about buying/making extractors.

    I'd seen several videos on using presses.. "youtube fruit press honey" and they work really well. You can easily build one out of a hydraulic jack and some 4x4 lumber and such. Both my apple trees died, so I shelved that plan since I can't do applesauce/juice anymore. But it applies here, too.

    Most simply crush and strain for simplicity sake. Guess it's all in what you want to go through.

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    Default Re: Honey Harvesting with a Meat Grinder????

    Quote Originally Posted by Rader Sidetrack View Post
    I hesitated to point this out, (but now I am anyway) that this is the Warre forum. I have never seen such a hive in person, but its my understanding that an extractor is not much use with a Warre hive.

    I wasn't aWarre of that. I came across this Thread clicking on "What's New?" and saw it was under General Beekeeping Forums. Guess I shoulda read further. Good catch Graham.
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    Default Re: Honey Harvesting with a Meat Grinder????

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWolf View Post
    I was going to say something as well, but I figured.. Naaa... I'll see how many people spout off about buying/making extractors.

    I'd seen several videos on using presses.. "youtube fruit press honey" and they work really well. You can easily build one out of a hydraulic jack and some 4x4 lumber and such. Both my apple trees died, so I shelved that plan since I can't do applesauce/juice anymore. But it applies here, too.

    Most simply crush and strain for simplicity sake. Guess it's all in what you want to go through.
    Food grade 4X4s?
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    Default Re: Honey Harvesting with a Meat Grinder????

    I crushed and strained for 26 years because I couldn't justify buying an extractor. I didn't have the money and it wasn't necessary. You could extract a Warre' I'm sure, if the comb had cocoons in it, and because of the way a Warre' is managed it would likely have cocoons in the comb.
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    Default Re: Honey Harvesting with a Meat Grinder????

    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    Food grade 4X4s?
    Oak.

    The 4x4's are just the support frame to handle the pressure of the jack.

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