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    I am curious if anyone treats single five frame deep nucs with oxalic acid vaporization and if so how much acid you use. The instructions I have read are two scoops (2g) for two story hives, 1 scoop (1g) for single story hives. I assume that the instructions assume 10 frame equipment so does a 5 frame nuc treatment get a proportional dose of half a scoop (.5g)? I wonder if their are other variables to consider such as a nuc being too small to handle the treatment or perhaps a minimum amount of acid used to be effective no matter the size of the colony?

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    Ryan,
    3/4 gram is adequate.........

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    I use one scoop. Get good results

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    Not too critical, I use 1/2 tsp for full sized hives, and just eyeball a smaller amount for smaller hives and nucs. Never had any bad effects from the acid, I think the dosage needs to be super high before it will cause any damage.

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    Yeah you need to go nuts with the scooper to overdose a hive with OA. Not to say it can't happen but a 5 framer is an easy eyeball estimate.
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    Whew! Just finished 83 hives and found myself really wishing I had a second vaporizer to speed things up. I ended up doing aprox 3/4 scoop on the 5 frame nucs. It was a humid calm afternoon and I was really thankful for a respirator.

    Ryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Williamson View Post
    Whew! Just finished 83 hives and found myself really wishing I had a second vaporizer to speed things up. Ryan
    Ryan, you can purchase that second vaporizer on OxaVap.com!
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    Yep I just did that SNL.....Can you ship as fast as you promote?
    I am looking forward to double speed next week and am curious to see if it increases my overwintering success rate over the past few years of no summer treatments. I did mite counts before hand so I know which hives to breed from for next year.

    For those who use two vaporizors at the same time........ do you use a dedicated battery for each vaporizor or hook both up to the same battery? I have a good car battery that had no problem with 4 hours of constant use today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Williamson View Post
    Yep I just did that SNL.....Can you ship as fast as you promote?

    For those who use two vaporizors at the same time........ do you use a dedicated battery for each vaporizor or hook both up to the same battery? I have a good car battery that had no problem with 4 hours of constant use today.
    Thanks for your purchase, It'll ship tomorrow! I use the same battery for multiple vaporizers. Just crank your car ever now & then to charge the battery......
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    I should have been clearer.....it is an automotive battery that does not reside in my bee van. I could see cranking the van up to give it a boost with jumper cables if it got too weak in an outyard.

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    Ryan,
    I believe running 2 vaporizers from the same battery will quickly tire that battery down.... as long as you have a van close by with jumpers....

    My wife was none too happy when I had to call her from an outyard to give me a jump when I let my vehicle battery run down......live and learn....
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    Ryan,
    Curious how your nucs are doing so far this winter.
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    What about vaporizing a 3 frame nuc full of bee.
    How much to use for this nuc?
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    Based on 2g. per double deep, you would use about 1/3g. for a 3 frame nuc.
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    don't know about 3 framers, but I've used 2g on 5 framers with no problems.

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    Thanks, much.
    It takes so little to help so much. OA is the way to go!
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    We are about to do OA vap treatments. I read it is 1 gm per 10 frame deep. So 2 grams for a double deep.
    For a 5 over 5 deep nuc wouldn't one use 1 gm? Or do you use 2 grams on everything?
    What about single 10 frame deeps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WBVC View Post
    I read it is 1 gm per 10 frame deep. What about single 10 frame deeps?
    I thought a single 10 frame deeps is equivalent to a 10 frame deep. Is it not?
    So if it is then 1gram should be fine.

    I put a 1/2 gram on 3 frames deep. But the density of the bees is too much that either the bees or the comb
    absorbed the OAV right away. I did saw some smoke vapor coming out at 4 minutes into the treatment.
    After 6 minutes done with the treatment I opened the hive. But cannot see any
    sign of the vapor/fume anymore. This is my first time doing it. So will see how the mite drop will be later on.
    If you have lots of bees then go with 2 grams will be fine. I will continue to use a half gram to treat within the next
    week or so. Keep us updated, o.k.
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    I was on the oxavap.com web site and received a warning that the digital certificate is invalid. The Facebook and twitter links take you to invalid pages. Has anyone has any issues with this site?

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    Sorry about any problems. I'll have it checked and fixed promptly.
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